Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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I trapped for the live market for 15 years down In the Carolinas.
My trap of choice was a 1.75 regular jawed Duke. The only thing I did was to add inside laminations to the jaws. And I kept the chain to about 8" long with 3 swivel points not Including the J hook at the trap frame.
Not saying It was a perfect set up but I sold a lot of fox to those buyers.
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/15/17 09:50 PM
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Stay away from off set jaws (allows foot to slide causing more skin cutting.)
Stay away from rubber jaws (freezing temps will make the rubber hard and result in some nasty-looking feet.)
Laminate the jaws (top or bottom or both...use round rod to eliminate sharp edges.)
Keep strong springs on your traps (foot stays where trap clamps on.)
Short chain and swivel heavy (12 to 15" chains and minimum 3 double swivels.)
Use in-line springs (takes the jolt out of lunges and may prevent injury to shoulder.) Also makes stake/anchor pulling harder for critter to do.
Go with either a good live market fox trap OR a good live market coyote trap. A single trap that works well everytime for both DOES NOT EXIST.
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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^^^ 100% correct. I have yet to find a perfect trap. 450s are decent on fox but too small for coyote. I run alot of fully modified Bridger #3s for coyote
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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WE didn't have coyotes In the south when I trapped. Well maybe the last year or two but not many.
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/15/17 10:56 PM
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Waiting for this, perfect live market trap answer !
Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.
Become fast,efficient & effective.
The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.
KEEP IT SIMPLE!
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/16/17 12:36 AM
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Montana # 3 Off set. 4 coiled is a MUST so foot doesn't slide around in trap Outside laminated center swiveled with a shock spring Best set up there is ive tried most
Second choice would be a Bridger # 2 outside / inside laminated shock spring center swiveled
Third choice would be mb 550 as long as you keep good strong springs I ran them two years and had good feet the third year the springs had gotten weaker and I was having bad feet because the foot was alllowed to move some
Important things are strong springs ( not ridiculous) Center swiveled and shock spring A rolled edge jaw Not sheared Which is one reason I prefer the Montana 6 inch jaw spread. Bridger 3 catches too high most of the time I didn't run them long
This is what I've seen the best for live market coyotes. I do not live market fox That will be someone else's department
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/16/17 04:11 PM
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Do you run 2 or 4 coil on the rubber jaw Doug? Just 2 coiled with #2 music wire springs.
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/16/17 04:28 PM
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To be fair about the rubber jaws.....I have not used rubber jaw traps in 20 years...so the modern rubber jaws may be better quality that doesn't get hard in freezing weather.
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/16/17 05:09 PM
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I’m law bound to use rubber jaws on land here and during the cold months the mb550s and the Vic 3s seem to work just fine for me as well. As far as the bridger 1.65 rubber jawed traps, I agree the pan is small and flimsy. A quick cure that worked for the cats I caught in those traps, was using a #2 bridger pan on them. I since switched most of them to the sterling pans on the 1.65s and both work very well. Those traps (1.65s) I run those all 4 coiled. The others, MB’s, Vic’s, so on, 80+% are 2 coiled with plenty holding power.
Side note, I find the mb springs are superior
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/17/17 04:25 PM
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I use j c Conner pads on my #3 Victors
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/17/17 06:10 PM
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Do they fit right on or do you have to do any trimming? I use j c Conner pads on my #3 Victors
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/25/17 04:37 PM
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Rubber jaw are great if temp stays above 30 degrees if it falls below your done. Best all around trap is a regular jaw450
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/25/17 07:24 PM
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One of the best , if not the best live market trapper ... used #3 Victor soft jaw trap..nuff said for me !!!
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/25/17 08:22 PM
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Would you tell me which #3 victor, the sight offset? Two or four coil. One of the best , if not the best live market trapper ... used #3 Victor soft jaw trap..nuff said for me !!!
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/25/17 08:39 PM
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Not slight offset I think..not sure . 4 coiled with 1 1/2 ..4 coil springs.
I have not seen any difference using either regular soft jaws or slight offset..I have both.
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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Thanks for your help. Do you take the springs off and replace them with the springs from a 1 1/2 trap? Not slight offset I think..not sure . 4 coiled with 1 1/2 ..4 coil springs.
I have not seen any difference using either regular soft jaws or slight offset..I have both.
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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Thanks for your help. Do you take the springs off and replace them with the springs from a 1 1/2 trap? Not slight offset I think..not sure . 4 coiled with 1 1/2 ..4 coil springs.
I have not seen any difference using either regular soft jaws or slight offset..I have both. PM sent
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/26/17 11:04 AM
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One of the best , if not the best live market trapper ... used #3 Victor soft jaw trap..nuff said for me !!! And he also checked traps 2 or 3 times a day if it was going to get cold...
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/26/17 01:35 PM
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One of the best , if not the best live market trapper ... used #3 Victor soft jaw trap..nuff said for me !!! And he also checked traps 2 or 3 times a day if it was going to get cold... He still used the #3 Victor soft jaws for a reason. Wonder why ? He could’ve used other traps there are reasons he didn’t.
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/26/17 01:54 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you on that. Couple reasons...
Cheap, easy to tune or repair, larger jaw spread, good quality rubber. Want me to call and ask him when he gets back from his trip?
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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12/26/17 01:58 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you on that. Couple reasons...
Cheap, easy to tune or repair, larger jaw spread, good quality rubber. Want me to call and ask him when he gets back from his trip? If you want too...I probably know the reason.
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Re: Perfect Live Market Trap
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Fox ,Bobcat and Coyote I'll take the Belisle 6" foot snare over anything else. What kind of cable? I have not found a cable that doesn't cause damage. They look fine at first but by Day 3 in the holding pen, it's rough.
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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