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#6113242 - 01/04/18 04:51 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
Kurt in Va Offline
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Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 64
Loc: Virginia
I'm in a learning mode, please explain a set off cage trap without the bait touch? Are you using commercial baits or trailing lures or call lures?

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#6113333 - 01/04/18 06:00 PM Re: problem coon [Re: Kurt in Va]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 52
Loc: southern ont. canada
Nothing to learn Kurt. I could not check the trap through the new years holiday period, so out of necessity I set off the trap and dumped the bait in the attic. I was certain the coon would investigate and feed. It never touched the bait.
As far as bait / lure anything that is freeze proof and will produce odor. I used a lot of product. To my nose, Ring tail cocktail and Anise seem to over power the other smells . I used some long distance call lure out side . It should have some staying power. The main bait was cherry pie filling with vodka, taste great. It wont freeze and you can't tell it is 50% booze.

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#6116293 - 01/06/18 10:52 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
TRapper Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1302
Loc: Central IA
Are thr clients hearing the noise daily and can they pinpoint location?...if it is accessible...go straight to that spot in attic to see what is happening
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#6118212 - 01/08/18 01:05 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
Kurt in Va Offline
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Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 64
Loc: Virginia
Any progress, did you nail it?

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#6118479 - 01/08/18 05:52 PM Re: problem coon [Re: Kurt in Va]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 52
Loc: southern ont. canada
There has been too much snow on the roof to safely switch out the one way door for a 220. I hope it left on it's own . But no capture so far . In the past when one method did not work switching to a dog proof or baited 220 made the difference. The animal has not touched any loose bait scattered in the attic. I can blame the cold weather for slowing animal movement a bit. Other than that I am close to out of bullets.
I have a wildlife caller, some nasty coon sounds and lots of volume. I would expect to stress the animal into leaving the attic . After this length of time I don't think I can do any harm with the caller. It's probably in the not to distant future.
Other than that I will need to take time of work for a proper fitting of a dunce cap.

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#6120986 - 01/10/18 08:32 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
Kurt in Va Offline
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Registered: 09/29/09
Posts: 64
Loc: Virginia
Could you put a trail camera in the attic to see if it is still there?

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#6121647 - 01/11/18 01:53 PM Re: problem coon [Re: Kurt in Va]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 52
Loc: southern ont. canada
I put in a camera two days ago. No attic sounds for a while . I expect it went out the one way. As far as tracks go the home owner an I must have just missed them

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#6127649 - 01/16/18 04:34 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 52
Loc: southern ont. canada
Up date- The home owner has not heard noises for six or seven days. I show up ready to remove everything and suggest that the critter left out the one way. I checked the camera and found pictures of a coon when the second coon appeared the home owner started to gasp. (I should have checked the pictures in the truck .) Both coons are walking within two feet of the baited conebear passing up cold pizza and other goodies. I moved the trap to directly on their path. Now they will half to walk around it and pass up vanilla cupcakes.
If I haven't caught them in the baited coneybear by now it's not going to happen.
I bit the bullet and went on the snow covered roof and installed a 220 . It didn't stabilize as well as I wanted, but it's there.
I don't think there are two coons trying my sanity.Only one. The 45ish or so pictures showed the second animal never leaving the first coons backside. You would think that he could at least stop for a slice of pizza.
I am a little leery of structural damage on the roof with the 220. I will switch it out for a two door trap.

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#6127797 - 01/16/18 06:29 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
TRapper Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1302
Loc: Central IA
220 will stop structural damage not make it
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#6127873 - 01/16/18 07:07 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
ponyboy Offline
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Registered: 08/23/11
Posts: 410
Loc: New York
I have put down plywood pieces over the rafters and belly crawled close enough to get the catchpole on a large coon in the soffit. It took awhile to get the loop on it, but, he came out with a little ruckus and was inserted into a waiting Williams trap. It was under similar weather conditions. Caught the first one in the attic. Second one catchpoled, and the third one the owner watched him blow out of the soffit outside and hightail it out of the territory as I was checking the traps. He never returned. They were all large coon.


Edited by ponyboy (01/16/18 07:15 PM)

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#6127895 - 01/16/18 07:21 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
ponyboy Offline
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Registered: 08/23/11
Posts: 410
Loc: New York
Also try hot pizza and chocolate cupcakes. grin

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#6128371 - 01/17/18 08:09 AM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 1319
Loc: Mass
We don't have the luxury of using dp's, and coni's are only permitted per call and can only be used for the taking of beaver, it's cages for me. When a problem coon won't mess with bait, lure or traps in or on the structure, travel runs to the home have been the next best thing. At this point even an area with a track would get a cage, or an educated guess on the travel route. I would still leave a positive set on the entry/exit but I wouldn't make it difficult for the animal to enter into where ever it's going. I've noticed on past jobs over trapping an area sometimes causes refusals. Hence may be the reason you have had no luck so far, or it just isn't there. Also depending on what kind of roof it is, try draping shingles over the cage as in the same manner you would wrap a cage for a skunk without the bottom just top and both sides. I've done that in the past with positive results. This is when trail cameras prove to be beneficial. Good luck imo,jmo,imho,jm2c
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#6128801 - 01/17/18 03:21 PM Re: problem coon [Re: Willy Firewood]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 52
Loc: southern ont. canada
TR I don't use a 220 much. Just once and a while when a coon avoids a cage. I was thinking that if the animal did not get a perfect hit, it might make a mess before it went to sleep.
TDHP Over trapping ,I trapped the attic at the home owners insistence, but sense then I have kept it up .Probably a comedy of errors by now . Those errors were quick fixes in the past.
The guys that suggested put a 220 over the hole had a reliable fool proof answer to a simple problem.
I initially avoided the 220 because of weather conditions and a visible dead animal. Quickly followed by more excuses as I think of them.
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

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#6128882 - 01/17/18 04:55 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
Kermit Offline
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Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 110
Loc: Ontario
the 220 could of been anchored to a slide cable and tuck the coon into the flower bed, in an ideal world of course

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#6129566 - 01/18/18 09:05 AM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 1319
Loc: Mass
Well bob pake, if the complaints aren't rolling in, then I'd say you're doing ok. But if they do, just make sure you direct them to the appropriate department.

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#6129846 - 01/18/18 02:43 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
Northmocats Offline
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Registered: 12/09/15
Posts: 426
Loc: Northern Missouri
Get some Molasses and Dog food and put in the Cage. Make sure the Cage is tied down so he cant roll it. A two door cage would be best like stated above. Might take him a couple days but once he smells that sweet molasses I dont think he will shy. Hes probably just using it as den and hasnt run for awhile since its cold.

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#6129857 - 01/18/18 03:03 PM Re: problem coon [Re: Northmocats]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 52
Loc: southern ont. canada
I have had bait that I dumped out of the cage in Dec. sitting loose in the attic. The camera says the coon will walk past this bait by no more than a few feet. + some pretty great bait and a few lures in the cubby. This animal has no interest in goodies. Lots of snow and no evidence of nightly strolls that I or the home owner can find. I have been thinking a un well animal for a while.I need to find out and soon.

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#6129946 - 01/18/18 04:22 PM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
Northmocats Offline
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Registered: 12/09/15
Posts: 426
Loc: Northern Missouri
I would Try a little Red fox gland lure if it wouldnt work bait... Good Luck sounds like a pesky one..

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#6131489 - 01/19/18 09:27 PM Re: problem coon [Re: star flakes]
358wsm Offline
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Registered: 07/24/11
Posts: 175
Loc: Northern New York State
Originally Posted By: star flakes
I have had coons in old barn lofts, and either killed them with a pitch fork which I pin them down until they die or I have shot them. If you can see the coon, why not put a choker on it, choke it off and it is RIP.
This time of year coons do not eat a great deal, and this one might have a food source in the house which is better than what you have. What I use is cat food in a live trap,and they have responded to horse sweet treats which is molasses based, with a plywood under the live trap so the coon can not rip up everything as they will anything within reach.

I never like using kill traps as things always show up that are not the coon.

I have had woodchucks in houses as you described and had to use a foot hold trap, but they pin into those holes and then it is a fillet knife like Davey Crockett to administer the coup de grace. My neighbor had a coon last fall by his silage pile which refused to go into a trap as someone had trapped it before in a live trap, released it along the lake as lakes and farmers always need more raccoons tearing holes in silage piles.

Hope something in the above helps.


We've got some knowledgeable cooners here... Very insightful. Indeed.
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#6131690 - 01/20/18 05:28 AM Re: problem coon [Re: bob pake]
TRapper Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1302
Loc: Central IA
Coon in iowa are in full breeding mode right now. We call em zombies as they will be moving no matter what the temp is outside
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