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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126660
01/15/18 10:06 PM
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Pot is going to effect someone's judgment and decision making ability..no doubt about that. Stoned and in possession of a loaded firearm is trouble no matter how you slice it.

Smoke pot and the guns are put away and unloaded there should be no problems from a sane person. I always have a loaded gun on me or close by so I do not drink or drug.....I just stay as pure as the newly fallen snow 24/7/365.

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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: ShaneT] #6126661
01/15/18 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: ShaneT
Originally Posted By: DWC
Its not the smoking. Its the selling and the mentality of youth right now. Weed is cool and slingin a couple grams makes young people feel like a bada$$. One of our most recent homicides involved two teenagers over a few grams- 70-90 bucks worth. so the answer is legalize it, right? Ask Colorado how thats going. Robberies are up because the state charges a lot more than what street value is. Legalizing it means there are dispensaries and grows popping up everywhere- legally ran and not even clise to legally ran. Weed=money. Everyone wants to talk about the physical effects of the drug-nothing else. Its more rare nowadays that a 20 something would only test positive for THC. Marijuana is hands down the leading cause of gun violence anywhere around these parts and i would imagine many other places. And truly, if we’re going to get nitpicky- one could say tobacco is the leading gateway drug.


I see your points. I still can't help but be highly skeptical of your statement that marijuana is the biggest cause of gun violence in your area are anywhere else for that matter. I guess I could be wrong.


I suspect it's because of the DEALING.........not the using !


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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126670
01/15/18 10:12 PM
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Meaning they are robbing each other for weed. I cant believe this is the only region where its happening so often. By gun violence im talking not only shooting, but robbery, pistol whippings ect. All young people robbing other young people for their weed, money, or their Jordans. We had a pretty sweet rolling shootout a couple yesrs ago between two vehicles full of dudes down one of the busiest streets middle of the afternoon. Car getting chased was full of the other cars weed. Little by little states are getting medical MJ legalized- more states have it than dont. To assume these states are actually monitoring their dispensaries would be a mistake. California just recently legalized recreational and have had medical for awhile, and has been a major source state for some time. Also, cartel and other criminal organizations are heavily involved, so that brings some unsavory people in as well. Just some food for thought for people that say “its just weed”.

Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: white17] #6126685
01/15/18 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: white17


I suspect it's because of the DEALING.........not the using !


Sort of like alcohol prohibition back in the day?


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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126686
01/15/18 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: yotetrapper30
I don't smoke, so it doesn't affect me. But, the issue here is MEDICAL marijuana. Some states have decided to allow it for medical use. If they can take away guns from people for using marijuana as medicine, what is to prevent them from taking them away from people using antidepressants, anti-anxiety drugs, ADHD drugs, muscle relaxers, pain medications, etc.

x10000 that's a mighty slippery slope.

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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: ] #6126714
01/15/18 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: bleeohio
Just another chip away at the 2nd amendment. Make something legal, then make something illegal. Outdoorsman of all people should know that there will be strings attached. Before long you get a parking ticket, well, maybe your just not responsible enough to own a gun?
Well, in this instance not quite true. Pot is Federally illegal, that's the federal law. Nothing has changed on that end.


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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: Finster] #6126720
01/15/18 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: Finster
Originally Posted By: bleeohio
Just another chip away at the 2nd amendment. Make something legal, then make something illegal. Outdoorsman of all people should know that there will be strings attached. Before long you get a parking ticket, well, maybe your just not responsible enough to own a gun?
Well, in this instance not quite true. Pot is Federally illegal, that's the federal law. Nothing has changed on that end.


But is the Federal law legal under the Constitution ? That's the question that needs to be addressed but our legislators won't touch it because somebody's want it to stay that way.

Those somebody's are probably the privatized prison system,the DEA,big pharma,DuPont or any other synthetic fiber corporation,Budweisier,etc.

Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 01/15/18 10:47 PM.

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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126724
01/15/18 10:42 PM
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Sounds like California is saying they don't care about the feds .




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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126734
01/15/18 10:50 PM
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Can you own a gun if you are taking any other kind of medication? I'm talking from Blood Pressure to Schizophrenia.


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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6126745
01/15/18 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: HobbieTrapper
Can you own a gun if you are taking any other kind of medication? I'm talking from Blood Pressure to Schizophrenia.


Maybe not for long if something ends up in court and the case set's a precedence.


You only live once, so get over it!

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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: muddyriverdogz] #6126752
01/15/18 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: muddyriverdogz

But is the Federal law legal under the Constitution ? That's the question that needs to be addressed but our legislators won't touch it because somebody's want it to stay that way.

Those somebody's are probably the privatized prison system,the DEA,big pharma,DuPont or any other synthetic fiber corporation,Budweisier,etc.


OMG please go take your meds !


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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126757
01/15/18 11:03 PM
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lol...I'm about to pop a can of cold med's here in a minute. laugh

You know it's true.

Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 01/15/18 11:04 PM.

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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126762
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I agree
with White17 some of your comments make my head feel

Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126763
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I agree
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126765
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Don't know how that happened

Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: wetdog] #6126768
01/15/18 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: wetdog
I agree
with White17 some of your comments make my head feel


I'm trying to snip that wire free that bind's you.lol


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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: DWC] #6126771
01/15/18 11:10 PM
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[quote=DWC]Meaning they are robbing each other for weed. I cant believe this is the only region where its happening so often. By gun violence im talking not only shooting, but robbery, pistol whippings ect. All young people robbing other young people for their weed, money, or their Jordans. We had a pretty sweet rolling shootout a couple yesrs ago between two vehicles full of dudes down one of the busiest streets middle of the afternoon. Car getting chased was full of the other cars weed. Little by little states are getting medical MJ legalized- more states have it than dont. To assume these states are actually monitoring their dispensaries would be a mistake. California just recently legalized recreational and have had medical for awhile, and has been a major source state for some time. Also, cartel and other criminal organizations are heavily involved, so that brings some unsavory people in as well. Just some food for thought for people that say “its just weed”. [/quote

So what your saying is if they could buy it legally they wouldn't be robbing each other for it ? So in otherwords the law is creating criminals where there were none before. Got it.

I know better than to post on these reefer madness threads. You cant reason with folks that are brainwashed by the government to think its ok to take away individual freedoms, as long as its not their drug of choice,its the same as arguing with a liberal.

I don't think it will be a issue long as fast as the country is going legal for recreational.

Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126781
01/15/18 11:23 PM
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Refer Madness?

lol


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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126798
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Marijuana is marijuana regardless of what word is placed in front of it. It's an addictive drug whose alleged medical benefits are highly questionable at best fabricated research results notwithstanding.

Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns [Re: yotetrapper30] #6126801
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Not what im saying exactly. Short answer is that until the states legalizing it are willing to sell it so cheap there isnt a black market, then yes bringing it to your state “medically” will bring criminals with it. We dont have medical or recreational here but the demand has risen dramatically over the past few years, partially because of a rise in population and partially due to that much more accessibility. If we pass medical laws here bringing our own dispensaries in, we will still have people driving to CO because its so cheap but it will also be starting to go out the back door here. More people start to use when u flood an area with something. The more people use the more acceptable it is for others to start and so on. If i illegally obtain a pound and sell 10 dollar grams compared to a legal shop selling 25 dollar grams and more and more start using- im gonna be rich. And people will rob me. No one knew there was a heroin problem here til dirtbags from chicago started bringing it here in decent weight. Now young people od-ing fairly regularly.

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