IDPA has matches all over the country...actually its pretty enjoyable and can be a good training tool if you do not get hung up on how fast you can finish a stage. You learn how to use cover, address multiple targets while moving and function under the stress of a group of people watching you. If you stand still in the open while shooting the range safety officer will be screaming in your ear to move.... ...if you use cover improperly someone will explain why your having points deducted.

Sure beats static range shooting...

Patrice, you are 100% right, thanks for saying it!

I think school districts want gun-free zones to avoid potential liability. If they allow guns, and someone gets shot, deliberately or by accident, they might get sued.

And then there is the issue of mixing immature college students, who regularly demonstrate that they can't handle alcohol, with deadly weapons.

If I ran a school, I might let adults carry there, might not. In Alaska there is no permit requirement, so theoretically we could have some untrained bozo blazing away at some real or perceived threat. I'd let the teachers carry for sure.

Jim

There is more than one instance of an armed individual stopping a potential massacre at a school.

Surprise, surprise it gets very little media attention... There's no body count and it doesn't fit the agenda.

Mike

Good video.

I'm sick to death of these people who think another law is going to make one bit of difference in the next shooting. Like a guy who is going to shoot up a school, McDonalds or whatever cares one bit about ANY law. News flash: They could care less about your laws!

The best defense is a good offense.

Every school in the nation should be mandated to have a security plan in place for the NEXT school shooting... and it must be a viable plan (with opposing force) to protect the kids.

I recommend everyone go to an IDPA match. It is a lot of fun and you learn a lot. The range I’m a member of has matches every Wednesday and the first and third Saturday of every month. I go as often as I can (usually twice a month). $5 to shoot, it’s five stages, bring 100 rounds.

My feelings are that unless there is armed security and metal detectors at every entrance I should be allowed to carry a handgun on my person in that building.

Liberals are after one thing: Control. They take over every institution they can, and bend it to their political purpose. Boy Scouts, public schools, colleges, media, all have been taken over by liberals and are now liberal mouthpieces. Where has the GOP been all that time? Asleep at the wheel, worried about their pensions. The Tea Party is a conservative grass roots movement made of normal Americans determined to take back their country from career politicians and failed policies. They recognize that both political parties are corrupt.

one of the clubs I belong to runs twice a month action pistol , a blend of IDPA and USPSA shooting ,with no categories or prizes , just bragging rights on your time you can use it as training for competition or for life what you choose to do with it is up to you.

the guarentee is that every stage will be different and most will have you shooting at least some of the targets off balance , weak hand , moving around a bunch , limited visibility , if we can safely make it work on our indoor range we will do it.

we have moving targets , reactive targets

one we call the bear trap you shoot a popper when it falls it releases a shoot target to come up under spring pressure like one jaw of a trap and when it is fully up it releases the no-shoot target the other jaw of the trap to come up and cover the shoot target . the first time you see it you wonder how your going to get 2 shots into the shoot target , after you have done it a dozen times , you start picking up another target close by after shooting the popper then come back and get the shoot target in time before transitioning to another taget or mofving to another box


the peak-a-boo is still the hardest , a shoot target is positioned directly behind a no shoot , you hit a popper that pulls the prop out from under the leg of the target it pops out from behind the no-shoot just long enough to get a round in it then pops back when the weight rolls off

I started out with an OWB holster and an now running it more often from concealment with one of my IWB holsters , spare mags in my off hand pocket , it slows down the draw and reload some. it is a lot more realistic to run it carrying exactly how I do daily.

One thing for sure is once a shooter gets into a school now days he has little to worry about as far as anyone defending himself or being a threat to him. One security guard at an entrance means little, I would think he can be taken out easily because he's really not expecting an attack. If every school had some armed teachers it sure wouldn't hurt, might even stop an attempt if a shooter thought there were armed teachers inside. I can think of many teachers in my school that would have been glad to carry, and with training would have defended well. If my taxes went up a few dollars to train teachers that wanted to carry, I'd gladly donate to that and I don't have any kids in school anymore. Like somebody said, if a teacher is willing to stand in front of bullets to defend kids, that teacher sure as heck would do what it takes to take out a shooter with his/her own weapon.

"IDPA has matches all over the country"

Ok, what is this?

International defensive pistol association
It is a run and gun pistol match of sorts
Really really fun! And good practice.

International defensive pistol association

they sanction matches , the rules are based in defensive style pistol shooting , you must wear a cover garment , draw from concealment , retain magazines on a reload and shoot targets in defensive order (basically as you see them or nearest to farthest.

they have set stages "scenarios" that must be based on a defensive story line.
http://www.idpa.com/about/introduction

USPSA United states pistol shooting association , is more competitive speed shooting the targets are similar but they can basically invent any crazy stage they want it is more about speed than practical defensive skills.

both will bring you much higher in your shooting game

as will club level action pistol shooting. you run against a clock that counts each shot , you have to move from box to box taking targets in an order , you will have to shoot leaning right , left , weak hand ,strong hand kneeling , standing, crouching , through a hole , from behind cover , at targets that are shoot and no shoot and partially obscured

this is a USPSA 2 gun cometition with the Army marksmanship unit comeditor running it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jFCb-kyKOY

IDPA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvCim9Rhdao

Thanks for the info, and you too wwc. This sounds kind of interesting. The only handgun I shoot is a revolver... are they allowed in these deals? And are these groups receptive to a girl with a revolver that never shot anywhere besides in the backyard before? LOL

Revolver if fine but you will need some speed loaders for it.

I believe a revolver is allowed ,many clubs welcome New comers male or female and many have women's only shooting activities also.

they even have a BUG gun class you may be able to run without speed loaders depending on what your revolver is

BUG = back up gun - like a J-frame S&W

the bug gun is like a short course fewer targets to engage

once you try that your likely to get hooked and want to shoot more

or it may be time for a auto loader there are a huge number of really good guns out there under 500 dollars , the world has never seen so many good carry guns the manufactures are listening and building stock guns better than ever and for very reasonable prices.


our club is informal all safety rules are the same but the stages can be anything we invent , it is one of the few things we open to non members

stages tend to run right around 20 rounds for us we try and keep it under 25 rounds for the stage 1 and 2 then we have a stage 3 that is the combined elements of stage 1 and 2 that can go 40 rounds.
we tell people to bring 100 rounds , usually that is enough for some misses also
strong side holster no cross draw or shoulder because you muzzle sweep every one and no one likes that .

we joke that we spend 2-3 hours to shoot for less than 2 minutes if we do it all right but it takes time to reset and score , pick up brass , there is plenty of chatting and getting to see other peoples gear.

If I have a choice to Arm a few teachers in my kids school or keep it a Gun Free Zone, I would vote for Armed..
If a shooting was to happen and a teacher was to return fire, I believe to would either send the assailant fleeing or distract them..
Having the ability and doing something in that situation would be better than doing nothing..
I'm not an expert, but it doesn't seem like any of us are or we would have solved this problem.

Dewey

Speed loaders only work with double action revolvers, most know I'm sure some may not. Just saying.