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Re: School threats increase
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State facilities are telling judges DONT SEND ANY MORE TO PRISON. WERE FULL. 160% capacity in this state.
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Re: School threats increase
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I have a brother that has routinely gotten into trouble with the law. We were raised in the same home with two parents who loved us and disciplined us routinely. We were brought up going to church and taught the value of hard work and responsibility. My folks raised us to make quality decisions. My brother has not made quality decisions. To say that parents should be disciplined for the decisions their children make is a ludicrous argument! Obviously each situation is different but it’s these types of hasty generalizations that simply pit people against each other.
Just my 2 cents Until the child is eighteen parents should be held accountable. The parents should hold themselves accountable first and foremost, the rest of society can get in line behind. Many of us parents have proudly raised great offspring with that method. It works. Quit with the excuses. Osky Not really excuses bud just an example of how kids will make decisions regardless of how they are raised. My guess is you are oblivious to some of the bad decisions your kids have made. Ultimately, the kids should be held accountable for their behavior the witch hunt you suggest is irrational. Congrats though I am sure your parent of the decade award is in the mail.
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Re: School threats increase
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I have a brother that has routinely gotten into trouble with the law. We were raised in the same home with two parents who loved us and disciplined us routinely. We were brought up going to church and taught the value of hard work and responsibility. My folks raised us to make quality decisions. My brother has not made quality decisions. To say that parents should be disciplined for the decisions their children make is a ludicrous argument! Obviously each situation is different but it’s these types of hasty generalizations that simply pit people against each other.
Just my 2 cents Until the child is eighteen parents should be held accountable. The parents should hold themselves accountable first and foremost, the rest of society can get in line behind. Many of us parents have proudly raised great offspring with that method. It works. Quit with the excuses. Osky My sister got in way more trouble than I did. Raised in the same home. I reckon they could have thrown my mom in jail and you would have been happy osky? That would have been great for me. Silly notion. My sister is a cop now. Her daughter my niece got in some trouble. Maybe they should have hung my sister. Fired her from her job. Brilliant. That'll teach them.
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Re: School threats increase
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Wait. Isn’t this the place where people get upset because they blame the gun not the shooter? Why then would we want to blame the parent not the child. Kids don’t have consequences for their actions today. This is just another example of placing blame where it doesn’t belong. Hold the perp accountable and do it routinely enough that others pay attention. Maybe then things will change. Where do the consequences come from? Mom/Pop, some need motivation to apply them.
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Re: School threats increase
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02/22/18 04:13 PM
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Even when parents give solid consequences some will still make bad decisions. Why does everyone assume if a child goes stupid their parents haven’t levied consequences? correction, why do you assume parents have? Osky
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Re: School threats increase
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Even when parents give solid consequences some will still make bad decisions. Why does everyone assume if a child goes stupid their parents haven’t levied consequences? correction, why do you assume parents have? Osky Why do you assume they haven’t. You strike me as the I do everything right but no one else does type. So it probably doesn’t behoove me to engage.
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Re: School threats increase
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Here in Ky we are averaging 2-3 a day of idiot kids calling in threats. Some are posting on social media. They have arrested a bunch. BUT IF THEY WANT TO STOP IT ARREST THE PARENTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
All it would take is throw mom and or dad in jail one time and it would end. If it got out that the parents had to bear some responsibility of the actions little johnny or Susie wouldn't be so fast to pull a prank. Jbyrd, are you for or against spanking your kids? Light em up !!!!
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Re: School threats increase
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I have a brother that has routinely gotten into trouble with the law. We were raised in the same home with two parents who loved us and disciplined us routinely. We were brought up going to church and taught the value of hard work and responsibility. My folks raised us to make quality decisions. My brother has not made quality decisions. To say that parents should be disciplined for the decisions their children make is a ludicrous argument! Obviously each situation is different but it’s these types of hasty generalizations that simply pit people against each other.
Just my 2 cents What age was he making all these bad decisions ??? I bet if your parents had to go to the police station in the back of a car one time their "methods" of discipline may have changed. NOT SAYING your parents did anything wrong !!! NEVER would slam a good parent. But now days there are more parents that think their offspring does no wrong. We all see where that attitude is going in society. !!! Plus during my growing up days if the "problem" child did happen as you described your brother , parents sent them to "reform school" . But we can't do that now might lower little johnny's self esteem. Then people wonder why the things are happening today with our society........ MY 2 cents
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Re: School threats increase
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Wait. Isn’t this the place where people get upset because they blame the gun not the shooter? Why then would we want to blame the parent not the child. Kids don’t have consequences for their actions today. This is just another example of placing blame where it doesn’t belong. Hold the perp accountable and do it routinely enough that others pay attention. Maybe then things will change. I think you are missing my point. I am just trying to get the absent parents to be held accountable. Parents now just buy them a gaming system or a PC and let them lock themselves in their rooms. My wife just retired from teaching high school algebra. After 30 years she tells me it is amazing how parents have changed over that time. NOT FOR THE GOOD !!!! Parent teacher conferences are no longer to discuss how to help the students. It has become a gripe session so the parents can tell the teacher how bad of a job they are doing. The kid sleeps thru class, never turns in homework, turns an exam in with nothing but a name on it, and fails but some how its the teachers effort that falls short !!! This is becoming more the norm than people realize.
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Re: School threats increase
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Which parent are you arresting? The "baby daddy" or the "proud single mom"? LOL Both ! Odds are the baby daddy got a warrant for back child support ...........
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Re: School threats increase
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02/22/18 04:54 PM
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Wait. Isn’t this the place where people get upset because they blame the gun not the shooter? Why then would we want to blame the parent not the child. Kids don’t have consequences for their actions today. This is just another example of placing blame where it doesn’t belong. Hold the perp accountable and do it routinely enough that others pay attention. Maybe then things will change. I think you are missing my point. I am just trying to get the absent parents to be held accountable. Parents now just buy them a gaming system or a PC and let them lock themselves in their rooms. My wife just retired from teaching high school algebra. After 30 years she tells me it is amazing how parents have changed over that time. NOT FOR THE GOOD !!!! Parent teacher conferences are no longer to discuss how to help the students. It has become a gripe session so the parents can tell the teacher how bad of a job they are doing. The kid sleeps thru class, never turns in homework, turns an exam in with nothing but a name on it, and fails but some how its the teachers effort that falls short !!! This is becoming more the norm than people realize. No I get your point but let take it one step further then. It was your generation that raised the terrible parents of today. Let’s lock up the grand parents too! No easy answers. I guess there are some situations that I would agree and say hold the parents accountable. Just not as easy as saying that’s the case all the time.
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Re: School threats increase
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Not really excuses bud just an example of how kids will make decisions regardless of how they are raised. My guess is you are oblivious to some of the bad decisions your kids have made. Boy, you said a mouthful there. I thought my two older boys were Saints until they hit their 30's and started telling stories of the things they did when they were young. If I would have known, I would have beat their Butts!
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Re: School threats increase
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Bad parenting doesn't make a kid buy a gun and go kill classmates! Bet it doesn't help . BUT THE POST WAS about kids calling in threats just for kicks. Happening everyday around here.
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Re: School threats increase
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If you wait to instill discipline until the cops call you down to pick up Jr. you're too late...
I fear we have let things get to the point that it's too late for a lot of these kids. Some might turn themselves around after they face serious consequences, but statistically a lot never will.
There have always been kids who strayed, and there were always negligent parents. One could argue the percentage of bad kids/parents is the same and we are seeing the same percentage of a doubled population... Or maybe we have more rotten kids/parents than ever before... I don't know. It sure seems there are more disinterested parents and disrespectful kids than there used to be.
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Re: School threats increase
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Bad parenting doesn't make a kid buy a gun and go kill classmates! Bet it doesn't help . BUT THE POST WAS about kids calling in threats just for kicks. Happening everyday around here. It's hard to tell the difference between the kids who are a serious threat and the kids who call in a threat to get an extra long weekend cause the school was closed... I would imagine the majority are looking to get the school closed and have a day off. I don't condone it and I think they need a good buttkicking if that's the case. But I think people need to realize that there probably is not an army of assassin kids out there. It's a tiny minority of kids who commit mass shootings. Mike
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