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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168288
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that was 1987, when it all went bad. Killing for treasure as it were. Dont forget Mario, he got points for killing, even though it had no bearing on his mission...
first person shooters are evil in your mind, know what a 3rd person shooter is? didnt think so...


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168289
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dang gray dog, cheap shots are all you got?


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Bigfoot] #6168291
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Originally Posted By: Bigfoot
Ammonium nitrate is a very useful substance that has benefitted mankind in many ways since we figured out how to make it." assault" rifles and handguns are useful tools that have benifitted mankind in many ways other than just killing people . Just exactly how has first person shooter video games benefitted mankind ?


Lots of stuff without benefit to mankind out there.

Once you start down the path of banning stuff that you see no benefit from... It doesn't take long for it to come back on you.

Some extremists even argue that fur is of no benefit to man anymore.

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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168303
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Hardly a cheap shot. Friday nights are are for laughing, loving, and being merry.

Mondays are for fixing the world's problems and showing intellectual superiority on social media.


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168382
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Comparing first person to third person is apples to oranges . There's a huge difference between the realism of Kong to modern call of duty or some other first person shooter game . the difference between first and third is all about POV and realism . I don't Know what the answer is . For Christ sake we have hundreds of kids eating Tide pods because they seen it on you tube . these same kids are spending hours practicing shooting each other with their little headsets on talking to each other about killing each other . can no one see the potential for disaster here .

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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168386
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Pretty sure there aren't any third person shooter games, maybe for flight simulator games perhaps.

Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168399
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The thought of banning something really bugs me . where do you stop. But lets admit FPSVG has something to do with it .Its a common thread between virtually all the school shooters . All anybody wants to talk about is guns . I'm leaning towards saying they have more to do with whats going on than the guns . If we don't include FPSVG in the discussion the only place we will be able to shoot is video games .I don't like it but something WILL eventually get banned Its the nature of our legislature . And I don't want it to be guns.

Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168401
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there are lots of third person games out there it just means your looking over your avatars shoulder first person is over your sight .

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Re: Violent video games [Re: FairbanksLS] #6168404
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Originally Posted By: gray dog
Hardly a cheap shot. Friday nights are are for laughing, loving, and being merry.

Mondays are for fixing the world's problems and showing intellectual superiority on social media.



review your first 2 replies, then get back with me.
I know for a fact, (with proof) video games caused nothing. But who am i? Facts are what they are.
Aint played a video game in 18 years, but i remember the rhetoric back then, it was as unfounded then, as it is today.
Were you alive, or, cognitive in 1992? Butt hurt over call of duty? My what you missed, years ago.

I gotta work today, i work alot, but im sure that makes me distrustworthy too, in your mind.

LMAO, both at superiority, and social media... This is trapperman bub, no media, and barely social. I disagree, and I HAVE THE COMPLEX?

Sheesh


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168406
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it was sub-zero by the way...the character who ripped an opponents head off, spinal cord still attached.


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168413
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I got to go to work good day

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Re: Violent video games [Re: Hillbilly910] #6168447
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Originally Posted By: Hillbilly910
Originally Posted By: dogdown
As I was transporting my grandson home the other night, I informed him that he was no longer allowed to play PS4 shoot em kill em dead video games in my house or in my presence. He's 11 and he will learn gun control under my supervision this summer. Gotta start somewhere.


if he learns gun control and respect, he can play shoot em kill em dead video games till he's blue in the face. The games have absolutely nothing to due with it...just like the guns have nothing to do with it. Passing the blame yet again.
Quite the difference...but those who grew up with them Absolutely cannot understand that.


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168474
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My teenage boys play war video games where they shoot german soldiers. I played video games-remember one where you shot people with a crossbow, it was a blast. We are all intelligent enough to know that a game is not real life. Give a boy a stick and it becomes a gun... and that's not a problem if they are taught to defend the weak and helpless instead of killing them. The problem is lack of parenting, not games or guns.


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168836
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Hillbilly you have missed the entire point. It is about responsibility and respect. If your kids plays videos, you are responsible to tell them ,yes it is fun but it is not reality you can't do that in real life or yes we can play cops and robbers and you shoot the bad guy BUT IT IS NOT REAL LIFE. You need to learn respect and pass it on. No one respects anyone anymore. Your posts are a sign of that. I have an opinion and you are doing everything in your power to disrespect that opinion.You disagree of course and chose to only blame mental illness, not offering an alternative solution. Possibly moderating intake could change a mental conception of the facts.No censorship necessary just guidance.


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6168843
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So Don your stance is that responsible parents are able to judge what is acceptable entertainment for their kids... perhaps even on a kid-by-kid basis?

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You guys ever hear of the term brain washing. Video games meets the criteria

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It was the original Dooms fault or maybe duke nukem?... This thread is as funny as all the people blaming Ozzy for the evil in the world back in the 80s... We had violent video games, we did not have drugs that make you feel absolutely nothing.... But hey lets ban games, AR's and whatever the next whacko picks for his rampage.

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Everyone has inner demons to one degree or another. Not everyone has the will or mental ability to overcome them without serious intervention or life altering events. We could put the whole world in a Tibetan monastery where there is nothing but chores, meditation and some food and still there'd be crazy people sticking knives or whatever into their neighbors.

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Originally Posted By: jbyrd63
You guys ever hear of the term brain washing. Video games meets the criteria


I played Mario Bros. a few times... I don't go into a foaming rage over mushrooms or plumbing.

Do I think video games in general are an overall waste of time? I guess so. Some people waste lots of time playing them. I personally didn't spend much time playing them, and I still don't. Better ways to spend my time and money.

Are video games a contributing factor in mass shootings? Seems a stretch. Is there a possibility they could be a contributing factor? Guess that depends on who you ask... I think if they are a contributing factor its at the bottom of a list of far greater factors...

If one kid reacts to a video game by shooting up a school and 49,999,999 kids don't what do you plan to do?

If one person uses an AR to shoot up a school and 49,999,999 don't, what do you plan to do?

Mike


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Re: Violent video games [Re: Don] #6169159
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I just played a few rounds of Call of Duty with my sons. Both are probably too young by helicopter parent standards.

Play the games with them once in a while, make sure they aren't going whacko thinking it's real life and, most importantly, prepare to lose. They are better at these games than we were.

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