Teachers don't get paid for the summer either. They are paid salary based on their contracted hours. They can choose to get their pay checks spread out over 12 months but they are paid for 9.

A large majority of people straight out of college with a bachelors start at similar salaries. I started at that with a masters in public administration just 8 years ago.

He’s saying engineers work a full 12 months. Teachers work 9. If an engineer makes 70k a year that’s about $5,800 a month before tax. Using that formula, for 9 months of work, some of you think a teacher should make 52k a year. Say they get a 3% increase per year, which is pretty standard cost of living raise, if they retire at 30 years of service, their annual salary would be 126k! Lol. What planet are you guys living on that that is an appropriate salary? Lol.

Did you mean they get paid for 12 but work 9 ?

Teacher steps/pay scale increases are not 3% per year. At my school try $600 per year with salary caps at 10 years for Bachelors degree and 20 for Masters.

None of them I know of only work 9. Most get 4-5 weeks off, same as my buddy who drives a fork lift in a factory, for the same money.

You simply do not know what you're talking about. Go talk to a few teachers. They put in countless hours/days/weeks of unpaid overtime and are doing one of the most important jobs in the world.

Atrapper,

I’m not arguing the fact that teachers are important. Sorry if I’ve come across that way. I’m speaking only from experience in wv. I know many folks that I went to high school with who we’re absolute idiots that are now teachers. At retirement age for a GOOD teacher that has kept up with current curriculum and done a good job with the kids, a $70k salary at retirement is definitely not unreasonable. There are teachers that live by me that are great with the kids who are fed up with the whole strike and won’t participate. Here in Morgantown, most of who you see protesting are folks only a few years out of college. Do they deserve 50k right out of school? I sure don’t think so. Everyone has to shovel crap just like everyone in every other profession until they get to where they want to be. I have a cousin with an ivy leagu law degree that has been out of law school for three years. Works 16 or more hours a day for 60k. My point is, you don’t just get a degree and magically become worth a million bucks. Trust me, the job market is no better out there for younger kids just getting out of college than it is for someone with out a degree. But something I do hear frequently from recent grads is “ I’d rather do so and so than to take that job at 30k”. My response back to them is that you take that first job while you’re looking for the next. It takes some folks 20 years before they are comfortable and where they want to be in their career.

No I did not! They are paid for 9 months, they can choose to get 9 checks per year or they can choose to take less on each check and spread them out over 12 checks. But you knew that, and are just being intentionally obstinate.

Teachers in WV work 9. We start school at end of August, end school in early June. Teachers start a week earlier. I simply do know what I’m talking about as it pertains to WV. Don’t know what it’s like where you’re from.

So no WV teachers work at the school, preparing lessons, their classrooms, etc... in the summer? They don't take continued education classes that are required to keep their teaching licenses? They don't spend countless hours on nights and weekends, before and after contract hours checking papers, preparing lesson plans, and collaborating with other teachers?

16 hours a day for 60k? Make more than that at McDonalds with those kind of hours.

Every other person who is salaried (not hourly) works after hours too. In Wv teachers get around 2 hours during the work day to grade papers, make lesson plans etc. maybe the solution is to make them work a full 12 months, 8 hours a day and make them clock in and out. I will agree that the health insurance issue needed fixed. The salary, I’m not so sure.

Sure. But the thing is, once she has paid her dues and worked for it, she could become a partner. Youbget what you put in.

There was one. She was my 8th grade English teacher and I loved her. She made learning fun... and who can make prepositions and compound words fun? lol But moreover, she genuinely cared for every one of her kids, and it really showed.

Last year, she entered my mind so I typed her name into the facebook search, and found her. She's retired now, and I couldn't believe it, especially for an English teacher, but the first thing I saw was that she was a Trump voter and die hard conservative. No wonder I liked her.

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Wes, what Jayme is trying to say, and he is correct, is that a teachers salary is based on 9 months of teaching per year. The teacher can either choose to take the whole salary in the 9 months they are working and go without a check for the 3 months of summer, or they can choose to hold back some of their salary and take less pay during the 9 month school year so they actually get a paycheck for the 3 months they are off. The teachers that take their full salary during school go 3 months without a check.

Now, the statement that the people on the picket lines were fresh out of college is complete BS. I grew up in Morgantown my entire life, and I know quite a bit more people in this town than you do. A lot of the teachers standing out on the lines were teachers that I had in school 20 years ago that are still teaching. I also saw a lot of retired teachers out on the line with their former co-workers. I know the faces out on the lines, and actually stood out on the line with them a couple of days. Anybody can argue that they "picked the wrong profession", but how often would you be able to actually work if they all just said heck with it homeschool them yourself and you were now responsible for your own kids education? If you ask me, all of you picked the wrong profession if you went to college and are only making $50-$100k/year. I have a high school education, work 36 hours a week, and make a base salary of $70k/ year and I never leave Morgantown for work. My job requires no continued education whatsoever. I work Friday, Saturday, and Sunday and get the rest of the week off, which means I get more days off a week than I work, and STILL make a better wage than most any job in the state that requires a college education. So, you tell me who the smart one is. The one who gets 4 days a week off and makes $70k/yr without one minute of overtime on a high school education, or the ones who went to college, have to pay back loans, and have to continue to go to school for half of what I make? It's not the teachers fault they make what they do. If the money is in the budget to give our legislators a raise every single year, then the money should be in the budget to give the people who are educating the leaders of tomorrow a fair raise also.

I loved my 10th grade English teacher. She wore a miniskirt and sat on her desk. It fit just right. Her name was Pinky. Only class I ever got a an A in.

So tell us, Dfabs, what is this wondrous job?

You're going to make me feel real stupid to have gone for a post-grad degree.

Jim

Dfabs,

I said I started at 33k. I’m well beyond 70k now, only 8 years later. I’m only 33. I’ve still got lots of ladder to climb. I think my degrees were totally worth it and will have paid for them selves 10 fold. I also knew in college that I didn’t want a degree that would pay me 45k for the rest of my life.

Teachers are nothing but a bunch of liberals, who preach the DNC talking points. They deserve a pay cut not a raise!