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List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. #6187065
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Hey everyone I'm new to the group.
I have a question about a list of fixatives for k9 lures and baits I can use.
I will making my lure and baits in a pint at a time
And the amount I should start with so it does over power my smells.also glands I can used in foodlures and my baits. Thank you.

Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6187239
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Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6188069
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I don't think glands need a fixative. Glands have some fixative qualities already.

sweet skunk is a good fixative. you will most likely have to age your own to get the real deal. takes a couple years minimum to get good.

muskrat musk, beaver castor and beaver oil sac are glands compatible in k9/cat food lure. not a gland but quality urine in a k9 food lure is not out of character either. just like dogs coyotes pee on stuff they are about to eat sometimes. pee on stuff they are about to bury also.


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Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6188104
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Mink glands work well in k-9 formulations. Tonquin musk and civit musk are strong fixatives. As far as amounts that may be something you have to play with yourself as it will very depending on the strength of tincture of fixative and the odor profile of your formulation. I'm no pro but that's my two cents to try and answer your questions.

Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6188506
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x2 on the sweet musk and aging your own. I try to start a new pint every year


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Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6188522
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Thanks everyone for your help
When making my sweet skunk how do I go about making it my self.the process I need to take.

In a food lure don't use any glands except mink or muskrat .So I can use any urine in a food lure then.
And sweet skunk can be a base for a bait or food lure too.
Just want make sure I got it right.
Thank everyone for talks help.

Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6188551
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Some people use fox, coyote or bobcat glands in their food base lures too. You can purchase sweet skunk from Bob Jamison or Trapper Arts Supply. I've never purchased this product but other products I've gotten from them have been top rate.

Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6188610
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If you are new to this I would recommend Russ Carman's book Musk, Mysteries,& Misconceptions

Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6188613
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Ok thanks
What do I need to do to make sweet skunk .
How do i go about doing it and parts and how long.
Thanks

Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6189110
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I've never made it but to try to help this is what I've read. Some use full skunk pods and some use just empty pods. Grind them either before or after ageing. They need to age at least a full summer or more. Sounds like some go at least a year or more.

Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6189946
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rotted down skunk pods take on a very unique odor I rotted a pint of half and half skunk pods and beaver oil sacs even it took on a sweet smell after a year and a half! trail cam results were positive on cats and yotes I can testify it worked well as a stand alone lure on a flat set


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Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Trapper73] #6189955
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The sweet skunk I'm using now was started in 2015. It has a very nice odor. I put a gallon of empty skunk pods in a bucket and cover with white wine. It takes about 2 years for mine to be right. I'm sure the alcohol in the wine slows down the breakdown, but it imparts a very nice odor.



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Paul is that one of your wine making secrets that you revealed to us. smile Clever

Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Bob Jameson] #6190215
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Originally Posted By: Bob Jameson
Paul is that one of your wine making secrets that you revealed to us. smile Clever


Yes, where do you think that skeeter pee gets it's yellow color from? The left over mustard in the empty sacs is the key - lol.



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Re: List on fixatives for k9s/ glands I can use. [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6190365
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Originally Posted By: Paul Dobbins
The sweet skunk I'm using now was started in 2015. It has a very nice odor. I put a gallon of empty skunk pods in a bucket and cover with white wine. It takes about 2 years for mine to be right. I'm sure the alcohol in the wine slows down the breakdown, but it imparts a very nice odor.
thank you for that information. Do you think any white wine at the store would work for this?

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Originally Posted By: Paul Dobbins
The sweet skunk I'm using now was started in 2015. It has a very nice odor. I put a gallon of empty skunk pods in a bucket and cover with white wine. It takes about 2 years for mine to be right. I'm sure the alcohol in the wine slows down the breakdown, but it imparts a very nice odor.
thank you for that information. Do you think any white wine at the store would work for this?


I use the cheapest white wine I can get. The wine I make is too good to use for this. smile



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I use the cheapest white wine I can get. The wine I make is too good to use for this. smile [/quote] I thought you used the best ingredients in your lures Paul.. lol

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lol I don't blame you Paul I wouldn't give up my private stock for a flea bitten critter either!


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