Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: Marty]
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A large # of people who are using heroin started using painkillers prescribed by doctors.
Its really a mess......Just Say No.
Legalized pot in the liberal states does not set a very good precedent for the younger folk.
Marty I agree with your moral premise. But once you use the moral/health standard to enact legislation it gets much easier for the government to make the leap to other things... And the nanny state has already made that leap with soda/sugary drinks, fast food, etc... It's also getting hard to procure lead for casting bullets... All in the name of public health. Once you give an inch... Mike
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: Marty]
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A large # of people who are using heroin started using painkillers prescribed by doctors.
Its really a mess......Just Say No.
Legalized pot in the liberal states does not set a very good precedent for the younger folk.
they did and it is a real mess. the pain clinics wow some of my customers have done work for pain clinics , it is really legalized pills you wonder if these people have any conscience at all.
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: Rat Masterson]
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Yukon that's true, but way more people drink and smoke than do drugs so not really a fair comparison.Take a 1000 heroin users and a 1000 drinkers and see how many are still alive in a year. So what your saying is that cigarettes and alcohol are a waaaay bigger problem in this country....got it.
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: danny clifton]
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I don't care what someone ingests to kill themselves.
Until they commit an act which picks my pocket or breaks my leg they can kill themselves all day everyday.
Mike
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: danny clifton]
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I would also assume that caring for someone with lung cancer or cirrhosis of the liver has higher associated costs than trying to revive an OD.
Mike
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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they really don't need the death penalty for drug dealers , just get them for the murders they have already committed.
if they make punishment to much for the drugs then every raid of a drug house would be an all out shoot out they have nothing to loose , but we do , our officers and collateral damage at each drug raid.
the sad part is so many people are hooked , might be easier to say if your over 21 no Narcan Your a real adult , sorry time to take care of yourself. but I can almost guarantee you know someone who has an addict in their family unless you live under a rock. like
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: Rat Masterson]
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Some drugs are so addictive all it takes is one time and you're hooked, alcohol and cigarettes not so much. As soon as the Gov. stops all aid to drug users then make it all legal and tax it. Examples? References?
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: danny clifton]
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It is an enforcement issue.Instead of tieing the hands of the police,it should be made easier for the police to enforce the laws.This will cut down on crime big time.Laws alone mean nothing if they cannot be effectively enforced.The deterrent effect is lost and the criminals just laugh at laws that cannot be effectively enforced because of the bleeding heart liberals whining about "my rights".You hear it time and again that the criminals have more "rights"than the victim.This is the whole problem.All the bleeding hearts whining about the odd innocent person getting caught up is laughable.Those so called innocent people likely got away with breaking laws in the past and never got caught so it all evens out in the end.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: yukonjeff]
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Should they be revived from Alcohol poisoning ? how about the guys that drive around Anchorage and other major citeis all winter searching for passed out drunks and save their lives every day. Are they saving stupid
I wonder if drunk drivers kill more people than drug dealers ? since they make public announcements about it, and put it on TV I would bet its Drunks once again that take the prize. Not even close in this area. I can’t remember of anyone getting killed from drunk driving in the last few years but people are dying from heroine one or two per month.
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: danny clifton]
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Any of you remember when the governor of Maine was first running? One of his motos was “shoot your local heroine dealer” the libs heads exploded. Well now he is in his second and final term and help change law so all could carry concealed without a permit unless you are a restricted person.
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
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Cannabis has killed zero people. Hang 'Em Anyhow !!! If You Smoke Or Sell Dope, You Get The Rope!!!w
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: danny clifton]
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Take one sentence from a paragraph and make it the topic They will not give every Drug dealer the death penalty. And its not what they said
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: Boco]
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It is an enforcement issue.Instead of tieing the hands of the police,it should be made easier for the police to enforce the laws.This will cut down on crime big time.Laws alone mean nothing if they cannot be effectively enforced.The deterrent effect is lost and the criminals just laugh at laws that cannot be effectively enforced because of the bleeding heart liberals whining about "my rights".You hear it time and again that the criminals have more "rights"than the victim.This is the whole problem.All the bleeding hearts whining about the odd innocent person getting caught up is laughable.Those so called innocent people likely got away with breaking laws in the past and never got caught so it all evens out in the end. Javol mein herr! Scrap the rights, it's for the greater good! Nothing bad ever happens when you throw rights out the window. Mike
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: scalloper]
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Any of you remember when the governor of Maine was first running? One of his motos was “shoot your local heroine dealer” the libs heads exploded. Well now he is in his second and final term and help change law so all could carry concealed without a permit unless you are a restricted person. that could be catchy "Save Kid smoke a dealer."
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: danny clifton]
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Stand fast men, see what you can do to help the Libertarian Party. I won't post a picture of an eagle over a flag. I will tell you that freedom lies in a different hole you're digging. Lean into freedom, even when the "..buts, well," the excepts and those issues that make you grit your teeth and say thats TOO MUCH freedomm.. so is..
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Re: death penalty for drug dealers
[Re: scalloper]
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Should they be revived from Alcohol poisoning ? how about the guys that drive around Anchorage and other major citeis all winter searching for passed out drunks and save their lives every day. Are they saving stupid
I wonder if drunk drivers kill more people than drug dealers ? since they make public announcements about it, and put it on TV I would bet its Drunks once again that take the prize. Not even close in this area. I can’t remember of anyone getting killed from drunk driving in the last few years but people are dying from heroine one or two per month. probably 50/50 here well sort of most of the DUI have alcohol and/or something else in their system. we have way to many here die from drug-DUI in 2017 one of the girls from my daughters class her and her grandfather were hit a mile out of town, he died. guy had just gotten out of prison for his previous DUI homicide about 9 months before he hit them and killed her grandpa.year before that a woman was hit buy a DUI with pot and alcohol 5 miles east of town I was at that intersection about 5 minutes earlier I would have seen her car driving at me a few miles east of there it killed her unborn baby she made it but just barely. there are plenty more but these are the ones I can recall right now. you just read between the lines in the obit and you can see the OD some times they are hard to tell from the suicide but hardly much difference heroin is suicide.
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