If we look at the range of wolves in the USA (lower 48) prior to removal their range was 3-5 fold larger than it is today, so the idea that this range won't expand to me is not likely. Even the marginal habitat ( and that marginal is not due to lack of food and shelter but human occupancy) will allow wolves to expand. The fact that they don't need nearly the large range area to provide food and shelter will allow them to "dig in and hold". That also means as they need to roam less and interact less there will lower death rates due to disease and or the hazards of extensive movement. Not saying that is what I am hoping for but I do believe that wolves will find ways to become much more adaptable then they have been or we feel they would become. Somewhat scary to think that an area occupied by a pack of 30 lbs. coyotes may be occupied by a pack of 65 lbs. wolves. Whole different prey community involved in that transition.

Bryce

Look at this map and tell me the population is the same now as in years past like the DNR is telling us. Any fool can see how much the range has expanded southward, and they've expanded because the carrying capacity of the original wolf range is saturated with wolves. And we are to respect their population estimates? It's pretty obvious they aren't being totally truthful.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...=mrc&uact=8

I just saw recently on a Facebook post where a wolf was released from a coyote snare in Anoka county.

We won't be trapping wolves in Minnesota any time soon. In case you didn't see the thread, they didn't delist again this year. Ridiculous.

And the fact that wolf delisting was removed from the bill lands squarely on Representative Betty McCollum DFL, MN 4th District, St Paul. Nice to have a metro rep dictating wolf management across Nothern MN and the entire midwest. She should be hearing from every one of us loud, clear, and often!

Here's some more data to throw into the mix...

Anyone care to make an estimate on the numbers of SSS that happens in your state?


I'll make a guess...

[/quote]She lives in her own little worlds in downtown Minneapolis and Washington D.C.. The wolf protection groups have her in their back pockets. And there is zero chance of getting her voted out of office because they love her in her liberal district. This wolf thing is going to be a problem until they can get a federal judge that understands the population has recovered and is willing to turn management over to the states. The stupidity of the whole thing is that the continental wolf population isn't in danger, and never has been. There's wolves from Minnesota all the way to Alaska. They never should have been put on the endangered species list in the first place.