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Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6195785
03/22/18 11:35 AM
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Am looking into Costco just to see what kind of break a guy can get there am guessing with Toyotas pricing structure they may not meet Costco's standards for a discount.


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Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: ebsurveyor] #6195786
03/22/18 11:39 AM
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I searched a 5 state region when I initially started searching for my last Toyota. Found 3 trucks I liked at Billion Toyota in SFSD. Talked to salesman about the 3, we went over in detail. Gave him my first, second, third choice. We last talked at 8pm, as I was driving up to make a trade; I forget it was like a 5-6 hour drive. I get there first thing, 8am. We go to test drive the 3 vehicles we discussed. Start with #2 then #3....I'd like to drive my first choice.....ummmmm let me look for it.........can't find it right now, hummm "let's make a deal on one of these 2". No, I want to drive my #1 choice, more time waiting.....salesman comes back, we can't find it. I ask is it sold, no. Is it being test driven?? No. Well, where is it, we talked late last night and it was here, I'm here first thing this am........what's up??!! I go to the Sales Mgr, he offers another $1,000 off choice #2, LOL.......no, I want to see/drive my first choice and explain I'd driven 5-6 hours to make this deal and we had about 15 more minutes and I was leaving. I walked out to my truck, called another Toyota dealership I'd test driven a truck the day before, asked if the truck was still available, gave him my offer and said if you agree I'll be there in 4 hours and trade, period. They agreed and I walked back into Billion, asked what was up......still can't find my #1 choice and I said no worries, I just bought another truck from another dealership. I professionally expressed my displeasure with them and walked out and made my trade at the other dealership. In my opinion, they're clearly a high volume dealership, in/out wham bam and on down the road, very little interest in developing any kind of relationship. That's fine, I've taken my business elsewhere and also referred 2-3 others to them since and they've been very happy.

Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6195795
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HA, don't believe the hype about new truck depreciation........that's laughable.
PLEASE translate for us then.....buy a brand new truck, does the value stay the same, go up in value......or depreciate.....3 days, 3 months, 3 years after your purchase......
"The used truck was only priced about $10-$15,000 below the price of a new truck"........please explain why the USED truck was priced $10-15,000 less?? Of course it has nothing to do with depreciation, LOL. Tires and brakes must have been really really worn.

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Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6195798
03/22/18 11:48 AM
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Goodluck Jerry! I live up by Aberdeen, and my last three vehicle purchases didn’t go well for me. I’ve never tried the Toyota dealership but the Ram dealer lost my business. Billion in Sioux Falls beat them by 6k two times in a row over the phone without even seeing my trade. I bought the wife a Jeep Rubicon Unlimited two years ago, and grand island Nebraska beat them by 7k.

Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6195814
03/22/18 12:03 PM
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I have a 2017 off road dblcb love it . It is a different truck then my 2009 sport dblcb,different tranny wise, but I’m getting used to it. Go for it!

Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6195830
03/22/18 12:27 PM
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"Cowboy Cadillac's" I like that. so what is out there for a full sized extended cab 4X4 that you can reach over the sides to pick things up off the bed? I don't want 4 doors, don't even mind if you have to fold up the seat back to get into the xcab area. My favorite jittney was a Cheyenne Xbed '97 350 stick had the granny gear in low range. It got 16 highway at 60ish and could pull a mountian of it's base. Do I have to look at compacts to get to reach into the bed. Then I would need a trailor. I am 5'9" nothing special 200 pounds. Is there nothing out there????? jk


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Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6195855
03/22/18 12:47 PM
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Toyota Access cabs, Nissan Frontier 2dr, Honda Ridgelines are all I can think of.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6195861
03/22/18 12:54 PM
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Looked at the Billion Toyota site they have a math problem they had a 2017 that was marked $5,000 off MSRP and their price was $5,000 over the MSRP made me laugh might be a trick to get a guy to call them! LOL


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Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6195917
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I have a 2017 Toyota with Access cab. 4 WD, 4 cyl with a 6 speed Automatic OD transmission. BARE BONES model- it doesn't have a bench or jump seats in the back. It is so bare it doesn't even have delay or mist settings for the wipers! I got it for 22,300 in November.

Only have about 3100 miles on it but the only complaint is that when shifting from 3rd to 4th under load- say up hill- it seems to rev pretty high. Almost like it cant decide to shift. I'd like to find a chip that mellowed that out a little.

Mileage is about 19 MPG, which isn't great, but it is better than I was getting in my Nissan Frontier 2wd with the big 6 cyl motor. Given that low of a number it might be worth it to go with the 6 cyl if the option was there.

As for value- the sales manager told me "bring it back in 3 years with normal wear, no accidents and all maintenance records and we will give you 70% of what you paid in trade on another." I asked him if the deal was only good using their dealership for routine stuff and he said "Nope. If you have receipts for oil and filters at routine intervals you're good." FYI it has Toyota care for 2 years for free and is full synthetic with a 10k mile change recommendation.

Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6195983
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Pencil all you like, but to say that new vehicles don't depreciate is simply wrong. Talk to any experienced investment person, accountant. The kinds of vehicles we're discussing.......common trucks, do NOT go up in value. Sure some depreciate slower than others, especially Toyota's.

Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6196012
03/22/18 03:23 PM
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I run a 87-88 D50 depending on what numbers you look at on it! LOL A mix of 3 trucks to build one it is a breeze to work out of 1/2 the bed is reachable from the side your one quick and easy for me. The top of a full size truck I can not see the bottom of the bed even they are so high. One is way easier then the other for me that's what I'm looking for to trap/hunt with.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6196030
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Might check out the Tundra’s before 2006, best truck T has marketed. Better power and better ride then any Tacoma and in today’s world not much bigger then the the tocoma’s of today.
Had 2 and they have held up.

Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Bristleback] #6196091
03/22/18 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bristleback
I searched a 5 state region when I initially started searching for my last Toyota. Found 3 trucks I liked at Billion Toyota in SFSD. Talked to salesman about the 3, we went over in detail. Gave him my first, second, third choice. We last talked at 8pm, as I was driving up to make a trade; I forget it was like a 5-6 hour drive. I get there first thing, 8am. We go to test drive the 3 vehicles we discussed. Start with #2 then #3....I'd like to drive my first choice.....ummmmm let me look for it.........can't find it right now, hummm "let's make a deal on one of these 2". No, I want to drive my #1 choice, more time waiting.....salesman comes back, we can't find it. I ask is it sold, no. Is it being test driven?? No. Well, where is it, we talked late last night and it was here, I'm here first thing this am........what's up??!! I go to the Sales Mgr, he offers another $1,000 off choice #2, LOL.......no, I want to see/drive my first choice and explain I'd driven 5-6 hours to make this deal and we had about 15 more minutes and I was leaving. I walked out to my truck, called another Toyota dealership I'd test driven a truck the day before, asked if the truck was still available, gave him my offer and said if you agree I'll be there in 4 hours and trade, period. They agreed and I walked back into Billion, asked what was up......still can't find my #1 choice and I said no worries, I just bought another truck from another dealership. I professionally expressed my displeasure with them and walked out and made my trade at the other dealership. In my opinion, they're clearly a high volume dealership, in/out wham bam and on down the road, very little interest in developing any kind of relationship. That's fine, I've taken my business elsewhere and also referred 2-3 others to them since and they've been very happy.


I think I found that truck you could not find at Billion in Sioux Falls! The only one marked $5000 off with fancy wheels/tires, sunroof but the price is plus $5,000 over MSRP for a listed price and no listing of the sunroof they show in the pic when I looked for it in the listed description. LOL I see they have a (this may not be the vehicle listed) disclaimer in smaller print at the bottom.


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Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6196146
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I think 2017 Tacomas are still at 0% interest. I just bought mine last month. That's for the whole 60 months.

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Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6196277
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Can probably reach over the bed rail ,on this one


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And those Jeeps hold their value too


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Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Law Dog] #6196283
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The way I understand it, it depreciates 3-4k$ when you drive off the lot, it's the money they charged for a profit, true value of truck doesn't include their commission

Re: New Tacomas whos got Ya of Na? [Re: Nessmuck] #6196476
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Originally Posted By: Nessmuck

Can probably reach over the bed rail ,on this one


If they sold them like this I'd look into it seen a kit a couple of years ago they said Jeep was going to produce them but have not seen one on the road yet.


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Originally Posted By: Tactical.20
The way I understand it, it depreciates 3-4k$ when you drive off the lot, it's the money they charged for a profit, true value of truck doesn't include their commission


I searched one place they wanted 36,000 for a new Tacoma and they had a used one for 35,000 I was shocked.


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It's the used stuff they make the most on per vehicle,

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