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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203585
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The thing is the question asked is moot, right and left are both in favor of gun control and have been since Hitler showed the way. There was a world wide acceptance of socialism in the early twentieth century and gradually all the individualists have either died off or been educated until today socialism is accepted by all but a handful of Libertarians and some outlaws.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203593
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I think your confused...no offense.


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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203594
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95% of u.s. high school students will say our country is a democracy and absolutely not socialist. percent may be higher for their teachers


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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203597
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The United States is a Republic of Laws. The best country on the planet. smile


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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203598
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The youngest American who voted for any politician who passed the NFA of 1934 is now 102 years old. This was the same class of Americans who voted for Roosevelt 4 times. That class ushered in the first major federal gun control and we have had the doors blown open ever since. Time to slam them back shut and put the monster back in its cage. That will only happen if we stop compromising and go on a political offensive. Of the MILLIONS or BILLIONS of dollars spent by NRA and Republicans we have yet to do that in any large degree.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203602
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I believe that any political offensive may be a tough sell, if tman is a cross section of society, as there are plenty here who are comfortable with current infringement.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203605
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I'll concede some felons should regain their rights after sentence is served. The ones who don't should be hanging from the gallows, as they would have in the 18th century.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203609
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So FF you're saying now is the time to make full autos available over the counter? Next your going to tell me a libertarian can get elected president.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203612
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Well, rat, we're not getting any younger. At what point will it become politically comfortable enough to stand up for the 2nd amendment?

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203614
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If it is a tough sell its because people are afraid. When permitless constitutional carry became law in KS some people were mortified. It has become more than obvious their fear was unwarranted.

For some reason that I don't understand, people believe the people they should fear will not be armed if its a violation of the law. They also believe that LE can protect them. I believe LE officers would really love to protect people. They know better than anyone all they can do arrest violent people after they hurt somebody. Not to many rapists or armed robbers going to rape and pillage if cops are nearby. People need to be their own first line of defense. A scary truism for many so they just choose not to believe it.


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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203615
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It's not being comfortable it's being feasible.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: danny clifton] #6203618
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
If it is a tough sell its because people are afraid. When permitless constitutional carry became law in KS some people were mortified. It has become more than obvious their fear was unwarranted.

For some reason that I don't understand, people believe the people they should fear will not be armed if its a violation of the law. They also believe that LE can protect them. I believe LE officers would really love to protect people. They know better than anyone all they can do arrest violent people after they hurt somebody. Not to many rapists or armed robbers going to rape and pillage if cops are nearby. People need to be their own first line of defense. A scary truism for many so they just choose not to believe it.


SCOTUS has ruled that LEO are not obligated to protect people.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203619
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Feasibility is directly tied to political comfort.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203620
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Yes, but most will if the situation arises


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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203623
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I do not think that criminals are going to obey the law and I also do not think its good for a criminal to be able to walk into the corner store and buy a full auto mp5.

Anyone that agrees with me is for gun control. So what?

Some controls are necessary....criminals used to shoot up the streets with full autos regularly. Now they do not....guess what? Some controls worked.

I will say it again for the dense folks......federal laws as they pertain to firearms are really not much of an issue today.


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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203624
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I'm pretty comfortable that this is not feasible.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203626
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Freedom is scary stuff. True freedom probably is unfeasible, at least for people who grew up under the socialism of the 20th century.

Compromise is no more nor less than incremental capitulation.

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203627
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I don't knowwhat difference it makes if an outlaw buys an mp5 from a gun store or a drug dealer


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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: danny clifton] #6203631
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
I don't knowwhat difference it makes if an outlaw buys an mp5 from a gun store or a drug dealer
Probably a bad idea to give the drug dealer a bad review on yelp if the gun doesn't work

Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control [Re: tomahawker] #6203632
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The thing is its against the law for outlaws to buy from a gun dealer Danny, that's the difference.

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