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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211943
04/08/18 07:56 PM
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heard that before so not surprised been using :Backbreaker" this spring and it is top notch well worth the money


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6211964
04/08/18 08:39 PM
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Paul I have no problem with that. My first double on beaver was a direct result of my first time trying Backbreaker on castor mound sets. I will pay whatever you feel is fair to charge. Thanks for putting out a high quality product.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6212039
04/08/18 10:50 PM
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People may trap for fun and enjoyment for themselves but they wouldn't do it for free for someone else. Neither should you. Nobody is in business to break even. The price of judiciously used lure is an insignificant cost of trapping. Thank you for continuing the Dobbins tradition.

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6212050
04/08/18 11:06 PM
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Paul your lures are well worth it!!!!!

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6212227
04/09/18 02:03 AM
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It won't affect my purchasing any. Take the number of sets 1 ounce will make divided by the increase in price and the cost per set is miniscule.

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6212635
04/09/18 04:46 PM
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Ya shipping makes me mad, used to cost 20-25$ to ship a vacuum cleaner in a box, now it's over 40$!
My lure guy raises prices almost every year

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6212860
04/09/18 08:40 PM
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Glad I just stocked up last month. However I won't hesitate to reorder when those jars run low. I'm in the business of catching critters and half of that is using the best quality lures available and Boss Dobbins lures are exactly that at any price.

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6212883
04/09/18 08:50 PM
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You bunch of suck ups. LOl
I'll be trading rat glands for my lure this year. Hey Paul the price of rat glands just went up. LOL


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6213110
04/10/18 12:17 AM
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Inflation is what it is.
They use to keep making the Hershey bar smaller and smaller to keep it at 5 cents. Just think how small a 5 cent Hershey bar would be today. It would get lost under a finely manicured fingernail.

Re: Lure price increase [Re: The Beav] #6213141
04/10/18 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
You bunch of suck ups. LOl
I'll be trading rat glands for my lure this year. Hey Paul the price of rat glands just went up. LOL


I do pay more when in trade for lure.



Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6213316
04/10/18 04:23 AM
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Then we have a deal. LOL


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6213415
04/10/18 11:44 AM
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Paul we understand, as some us a business menon here know the rule.Make money or go under.
As for the shipping you have to puff yourself up like Amazon and the USPS. Next to nothing shipping grin
I'm still in for Having Backbreaker in my arsonal!

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Bob Jameson] #6214189
04/11/18 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted By: Bob Jameson
[/b]Total synthetic products will be a thing of fact for the future no doubt.[b]


That raises the question , CAN a lure such as Backbreaker or Lenon's Fox Super Range All Call, be made with all synthetic ingredients; and still be an equally effective lure ? Would the price for a 1 ounce bottle of that lure be any less than the real stuff ?

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6214280
04/11/18 03:10 AM
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Canvasback2 I can speak for Lenon's Fox Super Range All Call, as long as I live it will be made from the original natural ingredients that Asa Lenon taught me to use in the formulation of one of my favorite lures. There is no substitute in my opinion for real animal glands and beaver castor, the weak fur market is causing a real shortage in glands and prices are rising quite quickly. Trappers whom collect glands thank goodness you will start receiving a little more for your glands, likewise, lure makers will have to increase price of lure. I will let Lenon Lure Dealers know what the increases are prior to catalog printing season.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6214286
04/11/18 03:16 AM
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When do you figure fnt will catch on? whistle


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Canvasback2] #6214444
04/11/18 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: Canvasback2
Originally Posted By: Bob Jameson
[/b]Total synthetic products will be a thing of fact for the future no doubt.[b]


That raises the question , CAN a lure such as Backbreaker or Lenon's Fox Super Range All Call, be made with all synthetic ingredients; and still be an equally effective lure ? Would the price for a 1 ounce bottle of that lure be any less than the real stuff ?


If luremakers start using synthetics in their lures, I would hope they change the name of the lure as there will be a lot of unhappy trappers.

Re: Lure price increase [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6214514
04/11/18 01:03 PM
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This transition will be a gradual process and it will take place over a period of years. The younger generation may well be here to live thru the beginnings of this time period no doubt. Maybe the first step will be to sell in 3/4 ounce bottles instead of 1oz. Who knows. I am sure there will be different approaches to how this is dealt with in a retail perspective.

This will most likely begin in increments of substituting 10-25% synthetic material to a previous formula to begin, then it will gradually over time increase the amount incorporated in the years to come. Not much unlike what is happening in our retail industry today.

They decrease the size or volume of a product and call it concentrated. This is a mental conditioning period to validate the smaller size volume and charge you more or try to hold the line for a while.

This is all assuming we will still have trapping as something that will still be legal to do.

Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6214533
04/11/18 01:24 PM
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I wonder if someday lure makers will advertise a synthetic and an authentic version of the same lure? Like have the synthetic at $6 and authentic at a much higher price.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6214545
04/11/18 01:43 PM
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Begs the question that if there are a few that you really like and feel like you can't have the same success without them, then it may be time to buy in extreme bulk, directly from the maker if need be. Or start testing and learning to make your own lures.


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Re: Lure price increase [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6214852
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The fur market crash of 1987 changed the way trappers sold their fur .There used to be country fur buyers everywhere .After the crash most of them never came back .The same thing might start to happen to lure makers if fur prices remain low .We may really enjoy trapping but we need to be able to at least justify what it cost to continue doing it .Lure makers also need to be able to convince themselves that the work is worth the return . Low fur prices will reduce demand for lure and supplies and as time goes on some will need to stop producing lure or raise the price . It might be a slow change or if something drastic happens to the fur market it could force a ripple effect to other parts of the industry that will forever change how lures are made available to trappers . As Bob Jameson said it might not happen in our life time but likely change is on the way

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