I think you ought to practice what you preach.

Approx. 30,000 gun deaths a year, most of which are suicide. I believe 11,000 was the latest figure for non suicide gun deaths.

A little math:

350,000,000 population/30,000 gun deaths= .00008571 % of the population killed by a gun every year on average.

without suicides it looks like: 350,000,000 population/11,000 gun homicides or accidental deaths =.00003143% of the population killed in gun violence or accidents every year on average.

Those numbers destroy the "gun violence epidemic" myth currently being perpetuated.

While each one of those deaths is tragic and we should prevent every one we can, taking away or curtailing the ability of the 2nd Amendment to work as designed for the sake of .00003143% of the population on a yearly basis is ludicrous.

Back to the original question, this is from an email I received some time back. Remember this? Read the whole thing


The following is a narrative taken from a 2008 Sunday morning televised "Meet The Press".From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised "Meet the Press" THE THEN Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag.

General Bill Gann' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171...

During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, "Stand and Face It".

Senator Obama replied :

"As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides." "There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression..." "The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing."

Obama continued: "The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing'. If that were our anthem, then, I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. [/u]It’s my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren.[u] If we,as a Nation of warring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails, perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments".

"When I Become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations of Islam, an unfair injustice which is WHY my wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past".


"Of course now, I have found myself about to become The President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First black Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America!"

Yes, you read it right. I'll never forget. They are the scum of the earth

The founders didn't believe in gun control. At all of any firearm. Was perfectly legal to buy a canon, load it with 12 pounds of 50 caliber balls (WMD assault weapon) and leave it pointed down your drive.

Yes Marty, I don't think the government should have the authority to decide who gets to buy what firearm. dangerous people should stay in prison or asylums. something I can agree with teacher on.

When I was 12 I could mail the money to Sears for ANY firearm they sold and the mailman would have brought it to the door. We lost that in 68 because white people were afraid of the blacks who were arming themselves. In a lot of cases arming them selves for good reason. It's time to end that foolishness. Honor our constitution.

ShaneT gets it. I've been all over the internet and not many do. Even the NRA doesn't get it, or those numbers would be at the forefront of their campaign, along with educating that the second amendment has absolutely nothing to do with defending your house against a burglar and everything to do with ensuring the balance of power between the governors and the governed is forever tipped in favor of the governed.

The real question is, are we being told the sky is falling, when it isn't, just because it sells and there's good money in it? Or is it because there's a group of people, powerful enough to promote this false narrative, who don't want us to have guns?

If anyone wants to verify the truth behind ShaneT's numbers just go to the CDC website https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr66/nvsr66_06.pdf page 34. There were 12,979 homicides by firearms in the US in 2015. How many of those do you suppose were one drug dealer killing another? Or justifiable police and self defense shootings? How many of those homicides do you think were perpetrated with a big bad AR15? 12,979 is 0.004% of the 321 million in the US in 2015.

To put the 12,979 in perspective, nearly three times as many people die each year from "falling". Do you lie awake each night fearing that you're going to fall to your death? Do you rage at our legislatures that we need safety rails and adequate signage along every edge? Mandate that every home have non-slip surfaces in the tub? Make it law that people can only drink while sitting? No? Why not when its three times more likely to kill you? I'll tell you why, its because that's not the message you are being force-fed on a daily basis. Wake up and smell the conspiracy. I can't tell you for sure who wants your guns, but I can tell you for sure someone does.

J MHO I think that the money the libs pump into disarming folks could save a heck of a lot more lives if they spent it on cancer research.

not much control to be gained that way though, Scuba1

He makes me laugh. He accuses you of voting for the party that supports gun control which isn't true about you or the party. But, constantly ignores and refuses to comment on the real party who not only supports, but demands gun control, the democrats. He is nothing more than a democrat masquerading as a Libertarian.

That's gun control, Marty. Will you admit to being a gun control advocate Marty?