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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232079
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Yes he is despite an onslaught of obstacles thrown a pathway of obscurity!
Tell me,..Rosenstein , can he flip a coin on end?

Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232082
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
Lots of folks on here believe in "reasonable" gun control, not just teacher. They don't all agree on what reasonable is but a lot of people think "reasonable" gun control is a real thing. Including you racerboy. Just the other day you posted how wonderful the background check was and how it made it us all safer.



Not everyone thinks that selling full auto firearms from a table on the side of the road to any 12 year old who has the asking price is a good thing....some us of believe that there needs to be some regulation.

If you believe that selling full auto firearms to a 12 year old is not a good idea you also believe in some regulations.....

But maybe you think its a good idea?


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232091
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton


White17, the way I understand it there is a handful of wealthy people with enough stock to outvote the smaller investors. Somebody is behind these large banks making waves against firearm related business. I would like to know who and why.



Not even close Danny. Mutual funds own the vast majority of all bank shares....in other words...the public .

Insiders own less than 0.73% of all shares.

BUT..........don't think that some mutual funds may not be pressuring banks to stop doing business with firearms manufacturers.

If you own funds, you should find out what management's position is on firearms. Remember.....most of them are headquartered in the northeast states


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232116
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Marty you sound like an old woman.

"Won't somebody please think about the children"?

Still waiting for the bloodbath that constitutional carry was going to bring about. You were against that too if I remember right.


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232131
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"It is an international embarrassment that we all have to endure, until we get a grip on mental health and guns".

Teacher....Really,were an embarrassment? Better tell ever boarder jumping SOB that same story,as they sure as heck are crawling in every way they can.personally i'm not ashamed of myself or any gun toting individual i call friend.

Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232146
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Teacher, you say you are a gun owner. I think I've asked this question before: Do you honestly think your guns won't be on the ban list if the powers that be get started with banning certain guns? Are you ok with that?

Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232147
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thanks white17. I was unaware of that


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232150
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232182
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
thanks white17. I was unaware of that



One fact that I am certain of is that Blackrock...which is the largest asset manager in the world.....was the first one to start putting pressure on retailers to not sell AR-15's. If you own BLK, or a mutual fund you own ,owns shares of BLK, then you need to consider whether you want to continue to own that investment..........IMO


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: Teacher] #6232224
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Originally Posted By: Teacher


Some history to think about:
1). Back in the 1980s the federal govt opened the doors of state hospitals and other treatment facilities leaving tens of thousands of mentally challenged, schizophrenic, severely depressed, Lewy-body dementia stricken individuals and a plethora of others out on the streets. The rights of these individuals were not to be trampled upon even if it meant the rest of us could be harmed. Getting someone “committed” to a care facility was no longer possible unless the individual consented to the treatment.


Yes, that is some history to think about. Makes me think, "WHY would anyone put their lives and their family's lives in the hands of a government like that?!?" You go right ahead and let them control you. I'll keep ALL my guns ("Assault weapons" and all) and defend my freedoms.


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232241
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
Marty you sound like an old woman.

"Won't somebody please think about the children"?

Still waiting for the bloodbath that constitutional carry was going to bring about. You were against that too if I remember right.

As long as his class of gun owner is still allowed to own guns (reasonable restrictions included) I think the concept won't be fully understood.

Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232277
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
Marty you sound like an old woman.

"Won't somebody please think about the children"?

Still waiting for the bloodbath that constitutional carry was going to bring about. You were against that too if I remember right.


I never said anything like 'think about the children'. I said "its probably best not to sell full autos to a 12 year old at a table on the side of the road'.

Which means some regulation is necessary.

As far as cc goes, I believe in training for people carrying guns in public everyday.

You skirted the ?

Should full auto and all other firearms be sold to ANYONE who has the money with no ID being required? Either you do or you do not believe in that.

Please answer that ?

Thanks.


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: FlyinFinn] #6232279
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Originally Posted By: danny clifton
Marty you sound like an old woman.

"Won't somebody please think about the children"?

Still waiting for the bloodbath that constitutional carry was going to bring about. You were against that too if I remember right.

As long as his class of gun owner is still allowed to own guns (reasonable restrictions included) I think the concept won't be fully understood.


Not to many folks in my 'class'.....maybe would be disarmed before you get to my 'class'.

smile


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232281
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What is sold between two consenting peoples isn't a concern for the third wheel (Marty and da gubmint)

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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: FlyinFinn] #6232286
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
What is sold between two consenting peoples isn't a concern for the third wheel (Marty and da gubmint)


so, your for selling any firearm to a 12 year old.


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232289
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Not me, personally. My 12 year old won't be buying one.
Minding your own business is a lost art. Regaining the ability is hard. Good luck.
There are way way waaay more people who can't seem to mind their own business than there are 12 year Olds with the means and the want to buy a firearm.

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I think you're dead wrong there. Most of the wealthy are wealthy because they are good at taking advantage of massive numbers of people. If you are rich because you're good at deceiving and manipulating masses of people, would you want those people to have guns? By wealthy, I'm not talking about your millionaire in a gated community, I'm talking about people who control tens of billions of dollars. Us normal folks can't even really imagine the god-like power that comes with that sort of wealth.

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Not me, personally. My 12 year old won't be buying one.
Minding your own business is a lost art. Regaining the ability is hard. Good luck.
There are way way waaay more people who can't seem to mind their own business than there are 12 year Olds with the means and the want to buy a firearm.


As someone who thinks everyone should mind their own business you sure are critical of what other people think.


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6232309
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If you just thought those gun control thoughts it wouldn't be a problem. But you belong to a Gunn club that supports gun control and vote for a political party that supports gun control.
I mean, we can still be friends and all. I'm friends with a few gun control advocates. I just want to make sure you realize in what you are in, as a gun control advocate.

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