Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
[Re: Marty]
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never said I did not want 12 year old to own a gun. that's up to the parents.
12 year old should not be able to go to the store and buy whatever full auto he wants to on his own.
If you want all those ineligible to own firearms locked up you do not understand the rest of the constitution as it was written.
Since that is not possible we need to have something that works with the situation we exist in not rules for never never land.
Explain the rest of the constitution part you speak of and your first two sentences contradict one another Marty.
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
[Re: danny clifton]
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Danny and finn, should inmates be able to own firearms?
If you say no then you favor gun control.
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
[Re: Catch22]
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never said I did not want 12 year old to own a gun. that's up to the parents.
12 year old should not be able to go to the store and buy whatever full auto he wants to on his own.
If you want all those ineligible to own firearms locked up you do not understand the rest of the constitution as it was written.
Since that is not possible we need to have something that works with the situation we exist in not rules for never never land.
Explain the rest of the constitution part you speak of and your first two sentences contradict one another Marty. Someone who was found guilty of domestic abuse cannot own a firearm and they think he should be locked up for life. That's not true to the constitution. SSomeone who has a restraining order that does not allow weapons possession ...they want him locked up for life....etc. its an insane idea. Won't work in our society.
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
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You have no second amendment rights as an inmate, or 1st amendment rights. Or any rights at all, really. Then you believe the government can take away someone's 2nd rights.which is gun control. Plus you never will answer the question...do you think a 12 year old should be able to go on his own to the corner store and buy an m4 legally? Please answer yes or no.
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
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A great number of people who can not legally defend themselves with a firearm should be allowed to. Those who pose a threat should not be released. Why is that never never land? It was the way things were done till fairly recently. School shootings, random shopping center shootings were not happening. Bank robbery was a popular sport. Since 1934 though when we got our first federal gun control legislation bank robbery doesn't happen anymore. So all you non criminals just put up with an intrusive government no longer constrained by our constitution.. No more bank robbery was worth it.
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
[Re: FlyinFinn]
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So the rest of have to loine up to pass a background check for an inalienable right that isn't supposed to infringed on because of someone who beats their wife or has a restraining order? Hmm, you have an interesting view. What other forms of gun control do you favor Marty? Do you think automatic weapons are ok to have without having to pay a tax, or are they just for the government? Plus you never will answer the question...do you think a 12 year old should be able to go on his own to the corner store and buy an m4 legally? Please answer yes or no.
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
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Sorry to say, with the exception of the second amendment, prisoners have MORE rights than the average citizen trying a case against them...This is a terrible situation indeed.
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
[Re: Marty]
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So the rest of have to loine up to pass a background check for an inalienable right that isn't supposed to infringed on because of someone who beats their wife or has a restraining order? Hmm, you have an interesting view. What other forms of gun control do you favor Marty? Do you think automatic weapons are ok to have without having to pay a tax, or are they just for the government? Plus you never will answer the question...do you think a 12 year old should be able to go on his own to the corner store and buy an m4 legally? Please answer yes or no. Yes
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
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I think most often today domestic battery really isn't.
If a woman really wants to kill her husband for fishing to much why shouldn't she be locked up till she is no longer a threat?
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
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A great number of people who can not legally defend themselves with a firearm should be allowed to. Those who pose a threat should not be released. Why is that never never land? It was the way things were done till fairly recently. Never has anyone who could pose a threat to society received a mandatory life sentence without any possibility of parole. Never.
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
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I think most often today domestic battery really isn't.
If a woman really wants to kill her husband for fishing to much why shouldn't she be locked up till she is no longer a threat? You said for life. But anyway.... so who decides that this woman is now no longer a threat and she can be released and legally own a firearm? If your not yet convicted but are incarcerated while you await trial I guess you should be able to have a firearm while in jail..... Maybe inmates should be able to possess firearms? It ought to be legal to sell m4's on the street corner in Chicago to 12 year old gang bangers...
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
[Re: Marty]
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Danny and finn, should inmates be able to own firearms?
If you say no then you favor gun control. Yes they should. When you are released from prison all of your rights that were taken away should be given back to you. If you are that much of a danger to society you shouldn’t be released from prison. How about all of the laws we have now be enforced on the criminals, instead of being dropped so they can get a conviction on a smaller crime? The attorney general dismisses most gun and other laws do that they don’t have to do their job. They plea down to smaller offenses. Why create more laws that only non criminals follow when you don’t enforce the ones you have?
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
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I would like to know who can buy a M4 or and M16 for that matter or perhaps an M60 legally other than a class 3 dealer? A 12 yr old could not buy a gun when I was 12 in 1963!! not an auto but just a plain gun. Also if you are not a class 3 dealer then you cannot posses a full auto firearm unless you get it as a collector. Some folks think a 12 year old should be able to buy an m60 on the street corner legally. No gun control whatsoever....or your really anti 2nd unless you agree with that.
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Danny and finn, should inmates be able to own firearms?
If you say no then you favor gun control. Yes they should. When you are released from prison all of your rights that were taken away should be given back to you. If you are that much of a danger to society you shouldn’t be released from prison. How about all of the laws we have now be enforced on the criminals, instead of being dropped so they can get a conviction on a smaller crime? The attorney general dismisses most gun and other laws do that they don’t have to do their job. They plea down to smaller offenses. Why create more laws that only non criminals follow when you don’t enforce the ones you have? Inmates actually have not been released yet...that is why they are inmates.
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it???????????
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I want my gay married neighbors to be able to protect their legal pot farm with automatic weapons and no government involvement whatsoever. That maybe never never land, as both Republicans and Democrats could never let that amount of freedom go unmolested. I think marriage is between a man and a woman....and pot should not be legal. Just sayin...
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