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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6234005
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wouldn't it be better to join the NRA, get involved in the internal politics and LEAD them to a different philosophy?


good luck with that. read this. especially the part about not being allowed in for wearing the wrong tshirt.

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/03/608272585...cing-his-rights


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6234006
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LOL!

where's YOUR successes, then?

Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6234008
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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6234016
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
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wouldn't it be better to join the NRA, get involved in the internal politics and LEAD them to a different philosophy?


good luck with that. read this. especially the part about not being allowed in for wearing the wrong tshirt.

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/03/608272585...cing-his-rights


The article does not say anyone was not allowed in for wearing a shirt...

How did you come up with that?

"Word is that they're not gonna allow us in if we're wearing the shirts".

"I mean, we may be escorted out, they may leave us alone; we don't know what to expect".

I guess it sounds good to say the NRA did not let someone in for wearing the wrong shirt but that is not what that article said.


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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: FlyinFinn] #6234032
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Gun control people needn't vilify the GOA, or anyone else who doesn't engage in or support gun control. The NRA does engage in gun control, so they know who to play ball with. Those two groups can argue amongst each other the definition of reasonable and milk more donations.


isn't it MUCH more likely that Mr. Hogg is at war with the NRA because the NRA is much more effective than GOA?

seriously, dude.

Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6234042
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If the NRA takes a stand for us now and stops giving rights away little by little, I will stay a member. If they keep bucking down like they did with the bump stock, etc. Its not for me. I will not give money and time to an organization that folds little by little to the anti's and call that a fight just to get more money out of me. Then I will double up on my investment for GOA. Lets see what their policy looks like after the dust settles from the Vegas annual meeting. I do think that a couple of heads at the top need to be voted out urgently. But as i said, lets wait and see.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6234045
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GOA numbers.
Membership‎: ‎1,500,000+ Tax ID no.‎: ‎52-1256643
Founded‎: ‎November 9, 1976; 41 years ago Executive Director‎: ‎Erich Pratt

Its nothing to sniff at either.

Beats Flying Fins club by a member or two I would think.
And keeps the NRA on their toes. Because if they get to slack, guess who is going to overtake them in short order.


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"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6234047
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Please stop quoting Flailing Fin. I can put his sorry (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) on ignore but not your quotes grin


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6234056
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GOA is probably an excellent organization, but I think some of you are overlooking the Second Amendment Foundation.

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Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: danny clifton] #6234087
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You can argue over what club to send you money to. It won't make a difference. Where the rubber meets the road is those elected to congress. The only faction of Republicans that have a prayer to have the backbone to advance a repeal of gun laws would be the Liberty Caucus. Rand Paul, Justin Amash and that other little curly-haired haired feller from KY...Massie and a few other select souls. However, the Republican leadership of Mrs Doubtfire McConnell, Ladyboy from Carolina and that creep from Wisconsin in the house will continue to prevent any meaningful action. It is better for Republicans and Democrats to keep the fire's of 'reasonable gun control' stoked, so as to maximize campaign contributions from individual donors and from gun groups like the NRA and GOA. Money flows while passions are high. Democrats get money too. It's a win-win thigh rubbing good time between the two 'opposing' parties. The real change is when pepole stop supporting either major party and cling fast to the Constitution. Not just for the 2nd amendment, but for every other dam one as well.

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You can also use the trampling of the 4th Amendment by both parties to bolster the argument that the 2nd amendment won't be respected as well. The continued spying on American Citizens by the NSA and the attorney general's gusto for using civil asset forteiture. We will see if he follows through on his threats to enforce federal drug laws in states that chose to legalize marajuana as to how the 10th Amendment will be respected. It's plain to see neither party cares about the Constitution or freedom in general. They want power and to keep power.

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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
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wouldn't it be better to join the NRA, get involved in the internal politics and LEAD them to a different philosophy?


good luck with that. read this. especially the part about not being allowed in for wearing the wrong tshirt.

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/03/608272585...cing-his-rights


That article is nothing but a hot, steaming load of bull crap!

“NICS background check system, which has about a 97 percent false positive rate”...? BULLCRAP!

Oh and by the way, Harmsen was there, and he was wearing his T-shirt. And he was using the convention to push his products while bashing the NRA. Nobody ask him to leave. But that doesn’t make a big dramatic (fake) story does it?

So you, Flailing Finn, NPR and Hillary Clinton all have one thing in common. The NRA is the enemy you are most proud of.

Carry on.





Eh...wot?

Re: Disrming America. Who is behind it??????????? [Re: FlyinFinn] #6234110
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
We will see if he follows through on his threats to enforce federal drug laws in states that chose to legalize marajuana as to how the 10th Amendment will be respected.


the Tenth Amendment has been dead for MANY decades.

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