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Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: varmintshooter] #6289102
07/28/18 06:16 PM
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Anyone Know what the bargain basement best price was for DUKE 160'S at The Convention this go around ?

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Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: varmintshooter] #6289106
07/28/18 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: varmintshooter
My first traps didn't even have chains. Folks on here seem bad mouth Duke traps all the time but Mr. Bill sells truck loads of traps every year.


Which has no bearing on quality. People bought pet rocks for years.

I've owned and run Duke, some are better than others. Mighty impressed by the 5 dls, though.

Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289115
07/28/18 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: walleyed
Anyone Know what the bargain basement best price was for DUKE 160'S at The Convention this go around ?

w


They were at 5.50 a trap when at Duke's booth when I went by this afternoon

Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289125
07/28/18 07:07 PM
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Looks like they used barb wire for the chains.

Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289132
07/28/18 07:25 PM
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I had to go look at the chains on my duke 110's after seeing that picture. The don't look like that. They are 6 or 7 years old though...

I am sure that if that situation gets back to Mr. Duke he will remedy it.


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Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289140
07/28/18 07:38 PM
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I can guarantee you if brought to their attention Bill and TA would rectify it on the spot. They put more back into the trapping community way more then most realize. I have watched them for years when I was going to the NTA yearly. Lesser folks after being bad mouthed like they have been would of quit the donations.

My bet is once they find out that problem will be relayed to the factory to fix it. Looks to be a maladjusted shear. You can find that in a bucket of nails as well.


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Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289173
07/28/18 08:02 PM
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Chain on a 110 is not needed, cut off all but 2 links for tags if needed. 60 a doz for duke 160s.

Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289175
07/28/18 08:04 PM
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The first thing I do with body grips is cut off the nearly useless chains and add a cable with a tree stop for the most versatile way for securing them.

Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Drifter] #6289233
07/28/18 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: Drifter
. . . Lesser folks after being bad mouthed like they have been would of quit the donations. . .


Nobody here is badmouthing Mr. Duke in this thread. I titled it "Buyer beware . . ."

We all appreciate what Mr. Duke does for the trapping community and his quest to provide a working trap at a reasonable price.

I incorporate Duke traps into my trapline and appreciate their mechanical soundness.

For you, Drifter, and a few others who apparently lack the ability to read and comprehend, let me summarize the key points here:

A young man buys Duke #110s from a dealer here at the NTA rondy. They were not purchased in a box. Somebody handed these traps to him after $ was exchanged, and unless this seller had nerve damage in his hands, knew the condition of the chains of these several traps.

That's my point and was warning others to beware of, specifically, Duke #110 traps. In my opinion, and the fellow tailgating next to me, they aren't worth buying as is.

Get it?

I'm sure over time the chain issue will be resolved. The only way Mr. Duke and company will be aware of the situation and remedy it is to have someone point it out.

Apparently the seller was not up to the task and was more concerned about making a buck.

The young man will probably not realize the problem until someone else points it out to him or he tires of patching gloves. Apparently he didn't know he had a problem as he was carrying them around.

Any seasoned trapper would have noticed the issue right away and would have refused the traps, unless he bought them by the box and not loose.

Get it?

This is not a Duke bashing thread.

It's about a trap with junk chain and a dealer who looks out for number 1 and to heck with a young trapper.

I find that irritating.

Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: walleyed] #6289257
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Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289329
07/29/18 01:27 AM
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What did the dealer say? Did he sell them real cheap as seconds? As a kid I bought a lot of cheap stuff I could make work. As a kid 2 traps for 4.00 was a lot better than 1 trap for 3.50 and you couldn't tell me any different!

Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289486
07/29/18 08:19 AM
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And give more traps away then ever one else put together I bet. Man done a lot for trappers and kids. Beside side most of us have been cut up more by saw grass then a few bad trap chains---and that was my point on growing up rough and hard as kids when I was talking about some snake.

Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289551
07/29/18 09:36 AM
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Quote:
For you, Drifter, and a few others who apparently lack the ability to read and comprehend, let me summarize the key points here:

A young man buys Duke #110s from a dealer here at the NTA rondy. They were not purchased in a box. Somebody handed these traps to him after $ was exchanged, and unless this seller had nerve damage in his hands, knew the condition of the chains of these several traps.


My reading comprehension is still intact thank you. If a persons intent was to inform them of the faulty chain why take it to a forum instead of to the man? Did he buy it from Duke trap or a vendor? Take the young trapper in tow and get the trap exchanged, problem solved and Duke trap will be informed.


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Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289553
07/29/18 09:42 AM
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Dealers go there to make money, not cater to kids. The sooner we learn this the better.





Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289560
07/29/18 09:52 AM
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Bad batch of chains and Mr. Duke will make it right sounds like a problem that will be fixed!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289594
07/29/18 10:52 AM
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Most dealers go to conventions for exposure and to talk face to face with customers. If people think conventions are money makers for dealers even when things are good they are dreaming. I also believe dealers will bend over backwards for kids. I would have told the kid to cut the chain off except for a link for tags. 110s don't need chains and are nothing but a potential entanglement. If I was that upset I would have had the kid show me where he got them and addressed it then and there.

Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289602
07/29/18 11:05 AM
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So, did you take the 2 traps from the kid and buy him better ones?


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Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289609
07/29/18 11:22 AM
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Yep..Just cancelled a large order of the "Cheap Dukes"...Thanks for posting...


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Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: Muskrat] #6289708
07/29/18 02:19 PM
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You can't buy a ford and expect a Ferrari .

Hope you didn't rain on the kid's parade




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Re: Buyer beware--cheap Duke 110s at NTA rondy [Re: AntiGov] #6289805
07/29/18 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: AntiGov
You can't buy a ford and expect a Ferrari .

Hope you didn't rain on the kid's parade


Hopefully I did and he took 'em back. You would've screwed the kid over.

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