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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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07/28/18 10:20 AM
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Nessmuck
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Set the trigger on the top and have it towards the rear of the tube.....and bend both trigger wires towards the back..like a 60 degree angle. This set up allows red squirrels and mice and other small critters from getting caught....leaving the set working for that Fishah ! With the triggers set this way....they are not pushing the wires with their face ...with refusal....it’s a wide open and inviting opening and allows the fisher to get deeper into the trap...before it fires ...making a quick dispatch.
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: Nessmuck]
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07/28/18 10:22 AM
07/28/18 10:22 AM
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Nessmuck
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Set the trigger on the top and have it towards the rear of the tube.....and bend both trigger wires towards the back..like a 60 degree angle. This set up allows red squirrels and mice and other small critters from getting caught....leaving the set working for that Fishah ! With the triggers set this way....they are not pushing the wires with their face ...with refusal....it’s a wide open and inviting opening and allows the fisher to get deeper into the trap...before it fires ...making a quick dispatch. If that’s confusing....PM me ....with an email...and I’ll send you a pic.....I can’t post pics on here.
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: Nessmuck]
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07/30/18 11:31 AM
07/30/18 11:31 AM
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rendezvous
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Set the trigger on the top and have it towards the rear of the tube.....and bend both trigger wires towards the back..like a 60 degree angle. This set up allows red squirrels and mice and other small critters from getting caught....leaving the set working for that Fishah ! With the triggers set this way....they are not pushing the wires with their face ...with refusal....it’s a wide open and inviting opening and allows the fisher to get deeper into the trap...before it fires ...making a quick dispatch. I like it! Thanks for sharing...
Let's go Brandon!
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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07/31/18 10:43 AM
07/31/18 10:43 AM
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Hutchy
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I have caught over 50 fisher over the past three trapping seasons. My setup is a 160 belisle, trigger on the jaw away from the back of the box, in a v. Have used plywood boxes and flexible ice cream pails. Almost every fisher is caught suitcased with one leg in. Dead fast. Their head goes between the trigger wires and they trip it with their leg/shoulder as they try and step through.
Bait goes at the back of the box, and with the ice cream pails is about 12" from the trap. I will not use the pails if there is a chance of a coon as they tend to reach in and the bait needs to be very far from the trap to avoid this.
Fisher are incredibly easy to trap, and are not fickle like say, mink. I have caught them on rotten water in a bucket after the bait has been long gone for a while. They seem to be willing to stick their heads in almost anything as I have a buddy who regularly catches his quota of 25 annually in 120 belisles. His adult to juvenile ratio is no different than mine. Our experience is the big ones are not shy about shoving their heads in a tiny opening.
The biggest thing to fisher trapping is to actually have a fisher population. Perhaps the fisher get more fussy when they see traps regularly, but I have not found that to be the case here. I may have one run by a trap one week, only to get caught next week or a few days later, but have only seen this a few times.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: Hutchy]
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07/31/18 11:11 AM
07/31/18 11:11 AM
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ebsurveyor
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I have caught over 50 fisher over the past three trapping seasons. My setup is a 160 belisle, trigger on the jaw away from the back of the box, in a v. Have used plywood boxes and flexible ice cream pails. Almost every fisher is caught suitcased with one leg in. Dead fast. Their head goes between the trigger wires and they trip it with their leg/shoulder as they try and step through.
Bait goes at the back of the box, and with the ice cream pails is about 12" from the trap. I will not use the pails if there is a chance of a coon as they tend to reach in and the bait needs to be very far from the trap to avoid this.
Fisher are incredibly easy to trap, and are not fickle like say, mink. I have caught them on rotten water in a bucket after the bait has been long gone for a while. They seem to be willing to stick their heads in almost anything as I have a buddy who regularly catches his quota of 25 annually in 120 belisles. His adult to juvenile ratio is no different than mine. Our experience is the big ones are not shy about shoving their heads in a tiny opening.
The biggest thing to fisher trapping is to actually have a fisher population. Perhaps the fisher get more fussy when they see traps regularly, but I have not found that to be the case here. I may have one run by a trap one week, only to get caught next week or a few days later, but have only seen this a few times.
Hutchy, are your traps on poles? How much snow cover? I agree with what Hutchy said and will add this. When I trapped on poles with light snow cover I had at least one fisher come to the pole and not climb it for every fisher that I caught. Now in Maine we need to use the "exclusion boxes" and I have more fisher coming to the box and not going in than I catch. Me and some friends have killed about 50 fisher in boxes in the past two years. No adult males. 
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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07/31/18 11:19 AM
07/31/18 11:19 AM
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On Georgian Bay, Ontario Canad...
Hutchy
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ebsurveyor,
we generally get between two and three feet on the ground, but usually we trap fisher through december and january when there is less. With the season extended now, I imagine i will trap later.
On poles with most of them, although I did some on the ground a while back with slightly better success than on poles. Do you notice they stick their heads in those holes, or avoid them completely?
Seems like a REALLY tiny opening. At least with a 120 in a regular box they can see past the trap and can see the bait at the back of the box. Also, we mesh the back of the boxes generally. Also, belisle 120s are larger than a standard 120, so maybe thats why my buddy has such good luck with them,
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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07/31/18 11:34 AM
07/31/18 11:34 AM
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Boco
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EB,we(all our trappers in the district) did a 3 year scientific study(about 15 years ago) with a biologist and fur tech,on incidental fisher in elevated marten boxes (120's).Jaws were sent away for aging(tooth section and x-ray).The results were 9 to 1 juvenile harvest over the 3 year study.Adults,especially the large appleheads are excluded a lot more here in an elevated box with a 120.There was the odd one though.
Anecdotally it would seem that in the northern district,larger adult fisher incidentals,although rare, occur in lynx\fox sets on the ground.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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07/31/18 02:09 PM
07/31/18 02:09 PM
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ebsurveyor
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Boco & Hutchy, thanks for the info. We can use a 220 size exclusion box on the ground. Again no adult males. The second design the entrance hole must not exceed 6 x 7 inches and must be placed on the side of the device. 
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: ebsurveyor]
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07/31/18 05:38 PM
07/31/18 05:38 PM
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Mac
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ebsurveyor has had pretty good luck with the boxes. But he says some will not work them. Two friends, both top trappers, caught 15 fisher last season between them. One of those friends told me after they got snow it was quite easy to see that they could have caught about 9 or 10 times more fisher if they had been using conventional tree sets or foot holds.
The boxes are poor at best. The state of Maine has effectively stopped long lining for fisher and marten.
Mac
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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07/31/18 07:21 PM
07/31/18 07:21 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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Any sets that exclude a good number of adults is what you want for good fisher and marten management.The main objective for proper management is to maximize the ratio of juveniles in the harvest.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: Boco]
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07/31/18 09:10 PM
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ebsurveyor
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Any sets that exclude a good number of adults is what you want for good fisher and marten management.The main objective for proper management is to maximize the ratio of juveniles in the harvest. But what will be the long tern effect of killing only juveniles and adult females?????
Last edited by ebsurveyor; 07/31/18 09:12 PM.
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