Re: Purebred plotts...
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08/19/18 09:36 PM
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Now y'all really have me confused. I thought leopards WERE curs. I've always heard leopard cur, and never leopard hound. And I've never heard of a July at all lol.
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Re: Purebred plotts...
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08/19/18 11:23 PM
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Here is some information on the Leopard cur and they now go by leopard hound. John Wick later promoted them with his Camo Jug. They where bred by a good breeder for his time named McDuffie in NC. They did very well for marsh coons. I had a few, they handled well and where also good for hogs. Some have glass eyes, so they have cow dog in them. They are different in looks and action than Mt Curs. http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthread.php?threadid=385444
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Re: Purebred plotts...
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08/20/18 07:29 AM
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Most of the leopard hounds (like Plott hounds) are open on track, will get deep, neither one of those things are cur traits. Some of the bigger blockier ones undoubtedly have catahoula in them. The fast, competition type that won hunts and made them popular are basically indistinguishable from a July hound, but a lot of July hounds won't tree, so they probably have a little something added.
July's come merle (leopard), black and tan, high tan, tri-color, buckskin, lemon and white, and have seen brindle. Nobody ever worried about what color they were, unlike the coonhound breeds that came in all colors up until recently. Plenty of July hounds still around, but the Calhoun hound is gone. Calhoun was a foxhound (there were not many coonhounds over a hundred years ago, coon hunting is a recent development in most places)They came solid black. They were common in western North Carolina and Western Tennessee at the time Plotts were becoming a breed from the foundation stock of Hanoverian Hounds from Germany brought over with the Plott family. They might have kept them pure, but other people crossed them on what they had, and what everybody had was foxhounds. Kansas City Heat and Camo Jug moved like they had foxhound in them. There are lots of rumors about big competition winners having a fresh dose of foxhound in them. It gives them a lot of drive.
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Re: Purebred plotts...
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08/20/18 08:46 AM
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Most of the leopard hounds (like Plott hounds) are open on track, will get deep, neither one of those things are cur traits. Some of the bigger blockier ones undoubtedly have catahoula in them. The fast, competition type that won hunts and made them popular are basically indistinguishable from a July hound, but a lot of July hounds won't tree, so they probably have a little something added.
July's come merle (leopard), black and tan, high tan, tri-color, buckskin, lemon and white, and have seen brindle. Nobody ever worried about what color they were, unlike the coonhound breeds that came in all colors up until recently. Plenty of July hounds still around, but the Calhoun hound is gone. Calhoun was a foxhound (there were not many coonhounds over a hundred years ago, coon hunting is a recent development in most places)They came solid black. They were common in western North Carolina and Western Tennessee at the time Plotts were becoming a breed from the foundation stock of Hanoverian Hounds from Germany brought over with the Plott family. They might have kept them pure, but other people crossed them on what they had, and what everybody had was foxhounds. Kansas City Heat and Camo Jug moved like they had foxhound in them. There are lots of rumors about big competition winners having a fresh dose of foxhound in them. It gives them a lot of drive. Wick's Camo Jug was single registered as a Leopard. I know there was some confusion as to his lineage, but supposedly his true three generation pedigree included a double shot of Stephens Stock Cur on the top (an open trailing all black strain of cur dogs) and also the famous World Champion Treeing Walker Rock River Banjo. The bottom side had a couple of dogs of "unknown" origin so we can only guess what flowed through their veins. Having Rock River Banjo up close probably gave Jug his bawl mouth and some of his speed. Old Jug's blood is present in many of today's American Leopard Hounds.
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