Unless organic grain can be verified as such it goes in the regular bin. Some Ag businesses do care about their reputation and branding.

This is why I believe the organic grain buyers are complicit in the scam. I do not believe there is enough organic arces certified to produce the amount of organic food available to the market. I have seen the salting of gmo with organic to pass a test myself. Now, when that load is then put into a larger bin and the risk of losing that whole bin of grain bought at organic premium to be sold as gmo is too great. I do not believe they test too thoroughly, as it is not in their best interest either.

The price is too high to pay if they are found out. Most reputable suppliers take the hit and try to get it back somewhere else.

Nope. Sure don't. Consider the source. EWG is the antithesis of a sound scientific source.

I call BS. I have been through the process and it would not be easily scammed. If caught you would then never be able to certify again. A GMO test takes place on every load and though out the load. The elevator can not risk one bad load contaminating the whole bin. You have to report your acres and yields, can not sell more than that. You could scam the system I suppose, but why? It is a highly profitable venture, why would you want to F it up? FF, your little OP-ED reminds me of something I would see on cnn, All BS and made up conjecture.

PM me a name. I have a list of all organic producers in Mn. and Wi. If you aint BS'n, it will be on the list. Also you can not "salt a load", one bad kernel in a sample will cause a fail. That is why cleanout procedures on combines and trucks is so important. Also locally sourced organic grains make up less than 20% of the grain fed in the US, the rest is imported from overseas.

Why would I pm you a name? The network here is up and running well. The organic guy gets his, the non-gmo guys get theirs. It would be ludicrous for me to put a stick in their gears. You can call me a B.S.r if you please.

I have seen 100% organic farmers go to a non organic farmers and buy both wheat and corn from his bins. Perhaps the organic guy was just buying it for his bird feeders.

3 years ago the organic guy planted purple organic corn in a field 1/4 mile from my brothers round up ready corn. At harvest there were many purple corn seeds sprinkled throughout the cobs in my broTHERS field. I guess it was lucky it was a north wind at sex time, or his purple corn would've been round up ready.
Suspiciously, be only grew purple corn that one year, I suppose it is more difficult to pump up the yield with gmo corn if it's yellow.

Un-named sources, Where have I heard this before? I personally sell my certified organic corn to the organic chicken farms and purchase conventional corn for my conventional beef feedlot. Its all about adding value to your product. If your friends feel the need to game the system, well they probly cheat at cards too. What I am getting at is there is no reason for a producer to cheat the system. you can only sell what your acres and yields allow. Yields approach conventional yields at three times the price with less $inputs. Why would you need to cheat?

All this time, money spent on college, studying for examinations, licensing by the state, more training year after year and it was right there in front me, 30 plus years wasted. Just drink well water and that should make me an expert, Im such an idiot. Who knew.

Amen. Meanwhile we are living longer better lives.

These guys your friends Finn? https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/...eme/1607209002/

I could see Atrazine being a problem but not Roundup, I sprayed tall weeds one day, it was misting back on me, never got ill

There are more and more ads from law firms advertising on TV. If you used Johnson's Baby Powder, Round UP, a certain blood clot filter, etc, and suffered a hang nail or a bloody nose, you may be entitled to compensation. Call the number on your screen right away. Lines are open 24 hours.

Oh man, I use Johnson's baby powder for some chaffing that well, I don't want to talk about. And I couldn't enjoy watching the View yesterday because of like the worlds worst hang nail, it's a real owie. Do you have that number?

The number to call is BR549. Ask for Junior!!!

I have that on speed dial

I sat next to a women that had a doctorate in chemistry. She said "Everything is Organic" and made fun of the term.

I didn't read all this post but will if it stays up.


An oncologist and team were questioning a patient trying to find a trigger for the illness. The man mentioned being accidentally over exposed to attrazine (spelling?) less than 6 months prior. The Doc quickly summonsed for more of his group to join the discussion.

A well to do lady asked if the patient would attend a "conference" in the big city and share this experience. He said sure if it may help others.

The lady then asked many questions leading to how, where, and a very demanding who?

The man explained the how, but absolutely refused to speak of the where or who, explaining it was an accident and the land owner and applicator had done nothing illegal or wrong.
The team then seemed dejected and dispersed.

The patient was puzzled as to why the big fuss, then all of a sudden was never questioned on the matter again, for about five minutes or less.

If that was hard to read, well, it was hard to write too.

I'm truly not sure what that means lol. But if you mean Monsanto is the devil, then I agree with you.