Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ?
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I'm not measuring when baiting the hole, but I use around a quarter sized smear. The point is not to feed the animal....
"...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound." Jim Beckwourth (1856)
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ?
[Re: kyron4]
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10/05/18 07:34 AM
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I made up some bait this year. After I ground up 2 cats and 2 beaver I had more than a gallon of meat of each. Mixed in some of Bob Jameson's Maxx force bait solution and I have nearly 2.5 gallons of home made bait and still own quite a large load of other baits from last year.
Point is next year I don't want to have more bait than the 4 gallons I got now.
Best to use more than less. Might keep the yote at the hole longer.
It doesn't make sense to store bait year after year knowing that I will that I will just make more next year.
Now obviously they guys who sell bait are trying to sell bait. However, I'm sure the guys who sell bait just use more because they have 100+ gallons of bait laying around.
Not because they are trying to swindle you into buying more of their bait.
Use what works. If you get away with a pea size go for it, but don't miss an animal cuz it got your bait in one swipe. Make it dig till it steps on the pan.
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ?
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The amount I use depends on the bait a loud bait less subtle baits more. I don't want my quarry to satisfy its interest before it gets to the hole. I've found certain smells you can go overboard on! Fishy smells less is best. Urine cant be over used.
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ?
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No, don't fill it to the top. Just put a little on sheeps wool.
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ?
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Hmmmmmm.... note to self I am using way to much bait.
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ?
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The snow showed me that when I used to much bait the K9 would stop short of the set and move on. Surely getting all the smell to satisfy its curiosity. When I went to much smaller amounts my catch rate went up. I think sometimes we forget how powerful a K9 sense of smell is, trained police dogs can smell drugs vacuum pack in a gas tanks. This assumes that their only interest is in determining what the bait is, by smell. A good bait should entice them to want more than just a sniff. When I smell an apple pie it does more than satisfy my curiosity.
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ?
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[This assumes that their only interest is in determining what the bait is, by smell. A good bait should entice them to want more than just a sniff. When I smell an apple pie it does more than satisfy my curiosity. True, but if you really want pumpkin pie that day then apple pie may just keep you looking for pumpkin . But just a slight hint of something cooking will bring you into the kitchen to see what's cooking. Different baits, different, days, different dogs, lots of variables. That's trapping, always changing.
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ?
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So If you use NO LURE and just place a natural slightly tainted bait In the hole what do you think your results will be?
A bait placed down In a hole Isn't going to give off much of a odor. Especially when you put a little covering over It. And that slight odor Isn't going to reach out very far. So you need to be spot on when It comes to location. No wind and high humidity will even make It worse. Since any odor your bait has will be kept close to the ground. So In my opinion how much bait makes no difference. Know If your bait has been doctored It becomes a lure. And this will make a difference. Know when you gang set you can get away with having empty holes and some baited holes because you have a lure at one set that's drawing those critters In to that set location.
This may be bit off topic but here goes.
When I'm running CRs I have access to lots of restored prairies. I create draw stations In these locations. When I first started doing this I had some success but more then a few times they were never touched. Super large bait right. Then I figured once those carcass froze they weren't giving off much scent. So I used some absorbent material soaked In LDC lure placed up high off the ground. And bingo that made all the difference In the world. I guess my point Is. That no matter how big or small your bait Is It doesn't make any difference unless the critter Is drawn In to that location by some far reaching scent.
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ?
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10/07/18 05:11 PM
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I use very little lure/bait, but I give them 2 or 3 different smells per set. Then somewhere in the area just a straight pee post just in case they're on to me.
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Re: Amount of bait down the dirt hole ?
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If a little bit helps a whole lot has got to do more. Lol
Matthew 7:6 KJV Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.... -OFBA, NTA, FTA, TTFHA-
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