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Beaver Mittens! #6343469
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I’m in the process of starting a beaver mitten project. I have everything I need for materials, and have a pretty good idea of how I am going to make them and put them together. I have the tanned pelt of the first beaver I caught from a few years back and thought that would be a good use for it.

Ive done a little research and have seen many pictures of beaver mittens, all the designs and different styles, and I’ve chosen to do a full fur mitten with leather palms. Now one thing I’m stuck on is which direction to put the fur.... guard hairs toward the fingertips or away. I’ve seen pictures of them going both ways. Hairs toward the tip makes a bit more sense to me for water to run off and not get trapped. I just need some input there.

Also what’s the best thread to use, I’m planning on using braided fishing line that I use to sew pelts, or I’ve heard upholstery thread or dental floss works good as well. This is my first time making anything with fur so it will be an adventure, I just want all my ducks in a row before I start. Thanks guys

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I never thought of using braid to sew leather. It might work good. I ordered a leather sewing kit online for 10 or $15 and it has been very useful and it came with thread

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Hand or machine sewn?

If machine? Leather or regular sewing machine.

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Hair tips toward finger tips is my preference. We sew with waxed dental floss.

Are you sure one beaver hide is enough ?


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I had a guy up north somewhere send me some moose leather and coon. I think I ended up making him two sets? Anyway,. We use a regular Singer sewing machine, match color of thread to item being created, direction of fur flows up arm, and it's your stitching that is key on a regular machine.

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Originally Posted By: white17
Hair tips toward finger tips is my preference. We sew with waxed dental floss.

Are you sure one beaver hide is enough ?

It is a xxl hide, I haven’t laid out the pattern yet, I’m just keeping my fingers crossed lol. I don’t have super large hands, but if I need more I have some more pelts in the freezer yet from last season I could send off to the tannery. My mittens would just have to be delayed for a while.

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Originally Posted By: brianmall
Hand or machine sewn?

If machine? Leather or regular sewing machine.

I don’t own a sewing machine, so they will be hand stitched. Also which stitch should I use, a blanket stitch or similar?

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I'm thinking about mine that go clear to my elbows. Solid fur including the thumb. Palm is moose hide. I'm sure they took more than one super . What happens when you are limited to materials is that you have to start sewing small pieces together so the fur will lay correctly.

Anyway your pattern may not require that much


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Originally Posted By: white17
I'm thinking about mine that go clear to my elbows. Solid fur including the thumb. Palm is moose hide. I'm sure they took more than one super . What happens when you are limited to materials is that you have to start sewing small pieces together so the fur will lay correctly.

Anyway your pattern may not require that much

I’m thinking mid to upper forearm

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I know nothing about hand sewing.

U should be alright with that one beaver for a set of mittens if you have separate material for palms and inners. I have gotten a set of mittens out of a blanket beaver using beaver for whole set minus the inners. Put the fur inside the gloves on palms then waxed the leather n palms to make water resistant.

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I make mitts with the fur running towards the fingertips,like White said.Where fur meets fur use a whip stitch,where leather meets fur(or leather on leather) use a stab stitch with a welt.
Upholstry thread works well and is strong.Use a good #5 glovers needle and it will be a pleasure sewing.It will go thru the leather like butter.
Its a good idea to sew fringes on the cuff on the outside of each mitt(opposite the thumb side) to make them easy to pull on.


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So what's the reasoning for having the fur going toward the tips instead of toward the elbow?

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I've seen them made both ways.Personally I want the fur to shed snow away from me after working in deep snow.Slap them together a couple times and the snow is gone.Do that with the fur going upwards and the snow goes deeper into the fur.

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Exactly !


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Makes sense if that's what you're using them for. I would probably use mittens like that for driving a 4 wheeler or snowmobile, with lighter gloves underneath. Take the mittens off when I'm working, and put then back on when I'm driving. In that case, it would make more sense to have the fur going from fingertip to elbow so as to not be blowing backwards against the grain while I'm driving.

I see your point about snow coming off away from you though.

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NO. The same logic that Boco expressed still applies. If you bump a tree with the side of your machine and it dumps a load of snow on you.............that snow will pack down between the hairs if you have the tips pointing toward your elbow. Trust me. Thousands of years of Eskimo experience isn't wrong on this one.

Try to wipe your nose with the tips pointing up and you'll think your are having sinus surgery when those guard hairs go up your nose.


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Where do you guys get patterns for them and how do you see them? By hand? Any certain type of stitch you have to use?

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I'm not gonna argue with eskimos, it for my applications, rarely if ever do I get massive amounts of snow dumped on me while in the woods. It is likely it will be snowing when I'm driving around though. What happens to the snow falling from the sky as I'm driving I'd the hair points towards the fingertips? Wouldn't it get packed in there? Do these mitts get tucked into the sleeves, so snow from the upper arm doesn't get in them when you shake it off?

Did the eskimos know they could wipe their noses up their arms as well as down their arms to avoid getting nose-blasted by guard hairs?

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Originally Posted By: tlguy
I'm not gonna argue with eskimos, it for my applications, rarely if ever do I get massive amounts of snow dumped on me while in the woods. It is likely it will be snowing when I'm driving around though. What happens to the snow falling from the sky as I'm driving I'd the hair points towards the fingertips? Wouldn't it get packed in there? Do these mitts get tucked into the sleeves, so snow from the upper arm doesn't get in them when you shake it off?

Did the eskimos know they could wipe their noses up their arms as well as down their arms to avoid getting nose-blasted by guard hairs?


Now your getting to why we make them with the fur flow towards the arm. The customers drive snowmachines.


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Where do you guys get patterns for them and how do you see them? By hand? Any certain type of stitch you have to use?


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