Interesting perspectives on this topic for sure.

If a right is taken away because of "they might" you might as well have government controlled internet. Or take away drivers licenses from anyone who buys alcohol because they might drink and drive

The reason I asked this was from a couple of conversations I had yesterday. Both of them said the same thing but in different words which was anyone with ptsd no matter if it's mild or extreme shouldn't have guns. I called bs and told them I know several with ptsd and completely trust them with firearms heck they even helped me qualify for my ccw and I have shot along side them and helped train people with them. Most vets would then lose their freedom the freedoms they defended only to get out and lose them.

I know people with PTSD now that I think about it one Vietnam vet that I have shot with and one Iraqi freedom vet that I have not shot with but would.

the Vietnam vet has times when he would get to the range and he was having a rough day and he could recognize it wasn't a good time for him to shoot so he would maybe hang out for a bit and talk and then go home to try and relax and deal with it. his would come on as significant anxiety about things he should not have been anxious about.



some people like to slap labels on not thinking about the person or people they know that might very well fit the category . they try and put things in a convenient little box that just won't fit.

First they deny guns to those with PTSD, next it's people with bipolar disorder, then those with a neuroses or anxiety.

Pretty soon they're defining the wanting or shooting of a gun as a sign of mental illness.

Jim

exactly

After my son was born my wife had post pardon depression. She ended up spending a week in the hospital. Some time later she was renewing her drivers license. Question on the form ask something like? have you ever been admitted for a metal health issue??
Not being someone who would lie she check the box yes! Then was immediately denied renewal of her license until she brought a note for the doctor saying she was ok to drive. Turned into big pain in the butt..
This was back in the 80s and to be honest I don't think that question is on the renewal any more?? I don't know.

Imagine what a mess it would be if they looked at our personal medical records for things like PTSD or maybe been dropped on your head..
Be a lot of folks I know not driving, not owning guns, maybe required sew some kind of label on their clothes?? Just so we can tell who they are of course.

Bad deal..

Mac

Exactly James & mac.

Gcp, I'm glad to hear that he knew when he was unable to be safe around guns. With all my health issues I too will not touch my gun when it's a real bad health day. .

Let's get back to Thomas Jefferson's original declaration, "No free man shall be debarred the use of arms". Robbery, murder, or any other violent crime with a firearm should be a capitol offense.

What does that mean ? Not in prison or not a slave ?

PTSD is so subjective , even for the sufferer . What might be a trigger one day may not be the following day , or even from hour to hour.

not sure it was even that he didn't think he could be safe , but that the noise made his ptsd anxiety worse. when he was having a day. heart would race shakey he just needed to go sit in the quite and relax.

like being in a very stressful situation but there is nothing actually very stressful around.

like if your claustrophobic and stuck in a small space panic and anxiety climb.

I am fairly sure capitol offence means guilty = dead more than likely by hanging.
Jefferson only had 2 options free or dead ok maybe a slave but I think some of his slaves had guns.

I think he meant CAPITAL offense. A CAPITOL offense happens every day in Washington D.C.

LOL!

Jim

Got it. Makes sense

spelling never really was my thing. 24 years ago I coulnd't even spell Engineere now i is won.

Exactly.

What I find interesting is everytime there's a mass shooting people on here say that people with mental illness shouldn't have guns. But this thread has a majority in favor of someone with ptsd too keep their guns.

With that said, for those in favor, what mental illness(es) qualify someone to lose their right? Would you want your health info out for anyone to look at too?
Could you imagine the delay if the government has to go through everyone's health record to see if they are barred from buying a gun? The current background system is flawed it would only get worse if they had to go through medical records.

If mental health is qualifier to buy a gun the government can start discriminating for other health reasons. Let's say those with arthritis or diabetes lose their 2nd where does it stop?