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squirrel refusals #6365096
11/04/18 10:53 PM
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Last spring nuisance squirrels were effectively eliminated by spreading peanut butter in the back of a Black Box Gopher trap ( https://www.amazon.com/Victor-Black-Gopher-0625-Weather-Resistant/dp/B000FBMFDO ) and wiring it vertically on a tree.

But for the last 3 days we have been getting refusals. We also tried wiring it horizontally to a fallen tree, and even on the ground. They pounce around it but don't even bother licking up the free samples of peanut butter offered a few feet in front of the trap. Tried pure, fresh peanut butter, and the Skippy with the sugar & veg oil mixed in. Neither worked.

With furbearers during a warm fall (sunrise temps in the 30s last couple weeks) we go sweet, fruity bait. Then fatty baits in colder weather. Should we try some kind of sweet jam, jelly? These squirrels are well fed and have fattened up on apples, acorns, berries. Need something irresistible.

Something from WCS maybe? https://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/removal/Squirrel.html

Suggestions appreciated. Thanks guys.


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365161
11/05/18 12:11 AM
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You did not say what kind of squirrels. Red/pine, gray or fox squirrels.

Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365171
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My bad. These are gray squirrels.


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365336
11/05/18 02:45 AM
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I think Jameson or WCS would be your best bet.


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365338
11/05/18 02:47 AM
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We hammer squirrels with a simple setup. Red, grey and flying squirrels and no extra bs due to what kind.




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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365471
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Yes you hammer squirrels with a simple setup. Red, grey and flying squirrels and no extra bs due to what kind... and are you using peanut butter for bait? or... ?


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365491
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I would change the kind of trap you are using. Squirrels will sometime lose interest in a certain trap style after seeing multiple catches. It might take a while but even a squirrel will eventually learn to stay away from certain objects.

Try a 5x5x18 cage or maybe even larger.

Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365553
11/05/18 01:41 PM
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I like a bigger cage, 7 or 8 in. square. I had some set a few years ago that were 5 in. square. They were out side by my bird feeder. Watched grays dig all around the traps, but would not go in. Used several different baits with the same action. Never did catch one in the 5 in. square traps. changed to 7 in. square and could not keep the squirrels out. Same bait as the small traps.

Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365666
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Caught about 40 squirrels at one place in 6x6, 6x8 and 7x7 swing panel traps last year, then they got skittish. Dug under the traps, so I put aluminum down. Then they rolled the traps. In the end I went to some single door wire trigger 9x11 with corn hanging from the roof of the trap. Got another dozen pretty fast. They were coming in to a dumpster, jumping on people when they tossed garbage. Chewed the lids off the dumpster. One was running around in a nearly empty dumpster. When he got close I jammed a swing panel trap over him and got him. Felt good.

Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365694
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Originally Posted By: joepennanti
Yes you hammer squirrels with a simple setup. Red, grey and flying squirrels and no extra bs due to what kind... and are you using peanut butter for bait? or... ?


Use our own bait, and are limited to cage traps and use the 5x5x18's sold at the depot. When they wont enter all I do is smear a little bait on the cage floor of the entry points. Well balanced bait will take squirrel period.


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365826
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Tootsie roll! got 'em on a frigin' tootsie roll from Halloween!


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6365905
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Time of year also has a part to play. They are likely locked on to a certain food source and are in bury for the winter mode.

Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6366056
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I see this happen with rodents from mice to beavers. It takes a while but the colony eventually wises up. Bait is but a small component, I do believe. Squirrels aren't rejecting the bait, they are usually rejecting the trap. Same with beavers. They end up avoiding the trap, not the bait or lure. Rodents seem to rely heavily on their sight more so than their nose.

These are the little things we notice with time.

Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6366103
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A little bit on the front lip and bait the back will get most squirrels in the trap.


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6366298
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I've never had to stray from in-shell peanuts or a square of cardboard with a smear of peanut butter (for glue) pressed into a jug of sunflower seeds. Year round. I prefer positive sets, but catch plenty with either of these two baits.

Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6367006
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So far the peanut butter and sunflower system works great!

Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6370985
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For you and your customer. I once had a fellow bragging to me on how many companies he got over on because they used peanut butter. I think it was 3. He would watch the trap when a squirrel got caught he would remove the squirrel. put the trap back and put the butter right back on the same spot reset the trap. the wco would look at the trap and see the bait and walk away. when the squirrels was all gone he would call and fire the company because they did not catch the squirrels. at least color your peanut butter.

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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: Jonesie] #6371041
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Jonesie: I set a live trap for red squirrels on a board about 5 feet off the ground, I used a squirrel paste on the pan with some sunflower seed pushed in the paste. Three times the trap was tripped with nothing inside. I thought someone was messing with the trap. So I set up a game camera. The bad guy was a deer. She would run her nose back and forth on the trap smelling the paste. Got three red squirrels and 5 chipmunks. Also a couple small birds. I do not use any peanut butter for anything.


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6373522
11/14/18 07:02 PM
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25 in a night, removed 32 in 3 days, droppings everywhere on one side of the attic. The last few were trapped on the opposite gable where I seen no droppings or runs/ disturbed insulation. You set the right places and use good bait you'll remove them. We use all the same cages and bait for red, gray and flying squirrels. When I set for critters I don't overthink it, I set with confidence and through knowledge by studying the animal I'm trying to trap. It sounds corny, but When I setup on a job I setup with a purpose and that is to make money and solve the homeowners problems. Them pouncing on and around it seen on cam? Fiddling with multiple baits and overthinking jobs just don't fit into the budget.

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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: TDHP] #6373562
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Originally Posted by TDHP
25 in a night, removed 32 in 3 days, droppings everywhere on one side of the attic. The last few were trapped on the opposite gable where I seen no droppings or runs/ disturbed insulation. You set the right places and use good bait you'll remove them. We use all the same cages and bait for red, gray and flying squirrels. When I set for critters I don't overthink it, I set with confidence and through knowledge by studying the animal I'm trying to trap. It sounds corny, but When I setup on a job I setup with a purpose and that is to make money and solve the homeowners problems. Them pouncing on and around it seen on cam? Fiddling with multiple baits and overthinking jobs just don't fit into the budget.

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How many traps did you have set to catch 25 in one night?


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6373594
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TDHP you are my hero.


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6373703
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30 traps and the price of the job was $980 with a seal up which was a foot and a 1/2 cut out of rotted wood on the fascia board.


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6373712
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I'm no hero, but it is funny to me how complicated people make things out to be when it comes to trapping critters. Most think you need some supah dupah leet0 bait prepared by big named bait and lure makers or $200 traps..the list goes on. A lot of the jobs I do I start and finish before the individuals come to a conclusion on what kind of bait they are going to use on their jobs from reading on here. It's crazy. But hey to each their own.


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Re: squirrel refusals [Re: joepennanti] #6378806
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I like when a homeowner says a trap is no good. Tossed out a perfectly good working trap, glad I spoke up and said instead of throwing it out I'll take it. My son was a little generous on the portion while baiting the trap, but he got it done. For a trap that was no good and squirrels wouldn't go near it. it sure did a bang up job on trapping a squirrel. The phone call from the client the following morning gave me a chuckle then ^5'd my son and told him to put his boots on.

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