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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369671
11/09/18 07:06 PM
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Beavers should never be about speed.If you have a bunch to do-speed will come with doing more and more.Don't always be in a rush to do everything-especially beavers-ya they are a lot of work-but they are probably the most satisfying in the end product.I skinned and fleshed over 1750 beavers one spring/summer-by myself.It actually turned me off skinning beavers for years.Now I just take my time and do them at my leisure-I love putting up beavers as long as I am not being rushed.

I have never tried Beav's way of doing it but it certainly sounds alright-going to give it a try.Have always done the centre strip down the back with a very sharp caribou knife and then used the dull knife to do the sides etc..Back when I was doing lots-I would skin ,flesh,and board 20 in an evening-that was a crap ton of work! Now if I flesh 10 in a day my hands go numb!

Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369690
11/09/18 07:23 PM
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Ok, I know there are guys that are fast and most faster than me. Wouldn't you know I got 3 more Beaver today. 2 smaller and one bigger than yesterday. The big one was the biggest I have ever gotten. I wanted to weigh it but wouldn't you know the battery in my bathroom scale is dead. The biggest I ever got before was 58 pounds and just to guess I would say this one is 65 plus. Anyway, I decided to clean skin. I did one of the small ones in 1 hour 45 minutes. Mind you that is carcass to board, hung castor, processed carcass and cleaned up. That is 45 minutes better than yesterday but smaller beavr. The second one was 1 1/2 hour. Better job on clean skinning also. When I get home tonight I am going to take the monster Beaver. Hopefully I can finish him I 1 1/2 hours also. It takes me about 10 minutes just to nail it on board. Don't see how anyone can complete in 15 minutes but more power to ya....


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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369710
11/09/18 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by strike2x
Anyway, I decided to clean skin. I did one of the small ones in 1 hour 45 minutes. Mind you that is carcass to board, hung castor, processed carcass and cleaned up. That is 45 minutes better than yesterday but smaller beavr. The second one was 1 1/2 hour. Better job on clean skinning also. When I get home tonight I am going to take the monster Beaver. Hopefully I can finish him I 1 1/2 hours also. It takes me about 10 minutes just to nail it on board. Don't see how anyone can complete in 15 minutes but more power to ya....
IMO that is great improvement over your first posting times. With further practice your will most likely get better but I would not expect completion in 15 minutes anytime.


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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369717
11/09/18 07:53 PM
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10 or 12 nails makes the nailing faster.


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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: Boco] #6369740
11/09/18 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
10 or 12 nails makes the nailing faster.
Impossible to get the proper put up/shape/sizing for marketing thru the auctions with 10 or 12 nails
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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369741
11/09/18 08:20 PM
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Yea but its fast,lol.


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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369748
11/09/18 08:36 PM
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Boco-I have seen your put up-you don't use 10 or 12 nails-LOL

Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: H. Fitzgerald] #6369780
11/09/18 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by H. Fitzgerald
After all the legs are removed , I like to insert the skinning knife into the leg between hide and meat and circle the cut. To me it helps the legs easier to skin. Like Beav, II use a replacement blade to do the cut from chin down. I rough skin but flesh all around the edges about 4 inches in. this leaves me a saddle to clean and it is easy with a sharp 600 Necker knife.

I also find that like in the above mentioned post, that it is much easier to skin when I cut around the inside of the leg holes after removing the feet.

Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369791
11/09/18 09:22 PM
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the more you do the faster you will get. ya aint gonna skin flesh and board your first beaver in 20 minutes.
it took me a couple hundred to get the hang of it. no i ain't fast but 6 minutes to rough skin and remove castor. 5 to flesh and 3 to board. i use an electric stapler. if using a stapler, remember one leg in one leg out .DON'T leave any staples in for the graders to find.


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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369795
11/09/18 09:25 PM
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I rough skin and use a beam and knecker knife to flesh. I stop when it gets less than razor sharp and hit it with a stone a couple times. If your knife is sharp enough and with a bit of practice the knife does all the work. I’m by no means the fastest but I always get compliments on them from my buyer because I don’t rush it. I take my time, do it right, and in the end have a beautiful pelt.

But the sharper your knife and the more you skin the faster you’ll get. It’s one of those things that there is no simple fix where you can just buy a certain knife or board and be fast.


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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369800
11/09/18 09:32 PM
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I was just funning MB.
That is the truest statement above,no matter what method you use,concentrate on your technique first,and by repetition,the speed will come.Even at the end of each season I am faster than doing the first few at the beginning.


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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369803
11/09/18 09:33 PM
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I rarely skin and board beaver at the same time.I usually skin and freeze,then at a later date board.
I clean skin so there is no heavy fleshing to do.

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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6369811
11/09/18 09:44 PM
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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6370206
11/10/18 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by strike2x
Ok, I know there are guys that are fast and most faster than me. Wouldn't you know I got 3 more Beaver today. 2 smaller and one bigger than yesterday. The big one was the biggest I have ever gotten. I wanted to weigh it but wouldn't you know the battery in my bathroom scale is dead. The biggest I ever got before was 58 pounds and just to guess I would say this one is 65 plus. Anyway, I decided to clean skin. I did one of the small ones in 1 hour 45 minutes. Mind you that is carcass to board, hung castor, processed carcass and cleaned up. That is 45 minutes better than yesterday but smaller beavr. The second one was 1 1/2 hour. Better job on clean skinning also. When I get home tonight I am going to take the monster Beaver. Hopefully I can finish him I 1 1/2 hours also. It takes me about 10 minutes just to nail it on board. Don't see how anyone can complete in 15 minutes but more power to ya....


My guess is the bigger beaver will take more than 1 1/2 hour. Probably because A=PIr2 and C=2PIr

It could slow down if you hit a pocket of puss the size of a golfball. sick

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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6370263
11/10/18 02:05 PM
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Ok, so last night when I got home I decided to put up the big Beaver, he was 72 pounds, I bought a battery for my scale because I had to know. It took me 2 hours and 20 minutes this time but I realized that big Beaver have a lot more fat and are tougher than the little ones. Not to mention that I had to set the knife down to move him. Not like a small one that I can toss around with one hand. I clean skinned again but had a bit around tail to remove after. I heard mention of a Necker 600. Is this a good knife for me to purchase for the touch up and tough areas.? Also I like the tip about cutting around feet once removed. That is my slowest area so I don't make extra leg holes. I have one 5 legged Beaver LOL....Thanks for all the in put. Also I thought the purpose of nails was so air could get to both sides of pelt. Figured bstaples would be bad...Explain one leg up one leg down please.


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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6370272
11/10/18 02:21 PM
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ok, another question. I have 1 beam that is round and just picked up a flat beam. I use a Necker knife but rarely have I ever used the sharp side for any other critter. The question is; What works better for you a flat beam or a rounded beam? Straight edged knife or curved? (For Beaver) Oops that 2 questions.

Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6370278
11/10/18 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by strike2x
Thanks for all the in put. Also I thought the purpose of nails was so air could get to both sides of pelt. Figured bstaples would be bad...Explain one leg up one leg down please.
Correct, nails should be used to allow air to both sides of the pelt. Although I have never used staples I believe the one leg in and one out refers to the staple legs overlapping the pelt edge, one leg in the pelt the other in wood only.


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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: backroadsarcher] #6370283
11/10/18 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
ok, another question. I have 1 beam that is round and just picked up a flat beam. I use a Necker knife but rarely have I ever used the sharp side for any other critter. The question is; What works better for you a flat beam or a rounded beam? Straight edged knife or curved? (For Beaver) Oops that 2 questions.
A beam that fits a curved fleshing knife. Although when clean skinning no beam is required, just a small pelt flesher to clean the pelt up once initial nailing is completed.

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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: strike2x] #6370379
11/10/18 05:51 PM
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For your beam all you need to do is round over the edges. Start about 3" In from the edge and plane them down .
The curvature of your knife has little meaning If your using the knife correctly . Your knife blade should be just about flat to the hide. And your making side ways slicing motions. So only about 2" to 3" of your knife blade Is making contact with the hide.

If your matching the contour of your blade to the contour of your beam your knife would have to just about vertical. And that Isn't going to get It done.


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Re: Fleshing Beaver [Re: The Beav] #6370482
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Your knife blade should be just about flat to the hide. And your making side ways slicing motions. So only about 2" to 3" of your knife blade Is making contact with the hide.

If your matching the contour of your blade to the contour of your beam your knife would have to just about vertical. And that Isn't going to get It done.


That's correct. Unless you're pushing fat on a coon. Good points Beav.

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