Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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Isn't that what Hitler tried to do-find a "solution" for his undesireables. They are not our undesirables. They are other countries undesirables and not our responsibility once sent back. Keith
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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The US spends 1.3 trillion dollars on welfare a year. 51% of immigrants in the US get welfare. Lets throw out the nonproductive, leach immigrants, keep the good immigrants, build a wall, enhance other forms of border security, pay off the debt and only let productive immigrants in from now on. Lets prevent Americans on welfare from having children, while on welfare. In two generations, if we stop paying the wrong people to breed more people like them, things will be much better. https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-HouseholdsKeith How on Earth do you propose we prevent welfare recipients from having children? And what would you do if a woman on welfare managed to somehow get pregnant? Forced abortions?
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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The US spends 1.3 trillion dollars on welfare a year. 51% of immigrants in the US get welfare. Lets throw out the nonproductive, leach immigrants, keep the good immigrants, build a wall, enhance other forms of border security, pay off the debt and only let productive immigrants in from now on. Lets prevent Americans on welfare from having children, while on welfare. In two generations, if we stop paying the wrong people to breed more people like them, things will be much better. https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-HouseholdsKeith How on Earth do you propose we prevent welfare recipients from having children? And what would you do if a woman on welfare managed to somehow get pregnant? Forced abortions? Make it a condition that while you choose to be on welfare and live off the largess of others, that you are implanted with a birth control device. No one would be forced to receive welfare. It would be the recipients choice. Choices in life have consequences. One consequence of choosing to accept welfare will be that you choose to give up the right to procreate. Keith
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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How on Earth do you propose we prevent welfare recipients from having children? And what would you do if a woman on welfare managed to somehow get pregnant? Forced abortions?
Make it a condition that while you choose to be on welfare and live off the largess of others, that you are implanted with a birth control device. No one would be forced to receive welfare. It would be the recipients choice. Choices in life have consequences. One consequence of choosing to accept welfare will be that you choose to give up the right to procreate. Keith[/quote] Would, say, a single mother with six young kids be allowed to go on welfare? And how would that differ from a woman having six kids once on welfare? Please don't misunderstand me, I'm trying to understand your proposal. I'm personally against any welfare at all.
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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Trumps estimate for the wall was 29 Billion not 5 Billion. Don't see why this administration is not making it illegal to hire the ones coming in and putting them in jail. My opinion is to many people want the cheap labor and not wanting to pay workmans comp, overtime benefits and below minimum wage.
Yes, the five is a start,..there has been several raids since Trump took office,.unfortunately not enough and surely not reported by main stream media! But,..it has picked up under Trumps administration. You seem in favor of a crackdown,yet oblivious to actions that will contribute to that crackdown. I suspect living in Wyoming,you are somewhat shielded by every day affects of illegal immigration,...maybe so,maybe not,..but one things for certain,this problem has been building for decades under all administrations. Time for action in every regard is warranted and should be addressed in all forms available.
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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Would, say, a single mother with six young kids be allowed to go on welfare? And how would that differ from a woman having six kids once on welfare? Please don't misunderstand me, I'm trying to understand your proposal. I'm personally against any welfare at all.
Yes, the single mother of 6 kids could still go on welfare. She would not be permitted to have more kids while receiving welfare. A single woman on welfare, like anyone else on welfare, could not have any kids, while on welfare. Minors on welfare would also have implants. People on welfare should be encouraged and helped to get off welfare. Once off of welfare, the implants would be removed. Welfare program usage should be for short terms only. Welfare also needs to have work or public service requirements. There needs to be costs for living off the largess of others. Unfortunately some people are lazy and don't mind taking advantage of others. People truly in need should be helped, but they should not be permitted to create additional burdens on society. Keith
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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Eleven flipping pages of dialog and I am the only genius to understand what is the true purpose of this go fund me effort? Forget about the dollar amount collected. Think only about what drives politicians, Votes!!! Everyone who donates is a voter. Politicians cater to voters in order to stay in office. This effort probably won't have any affect on the Senate's vote tonight or later next week, but they will catch on and act accordingly eventually. BTW, I am no genius. (i had to rely on spellcheck to spell it.) I pointed this out back on page 4 when I said "it shows the will of many Americans and will get politicians notice." Keith
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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The US spends 1.3 trillion dollars on welfare a year. 51% of immigrants in the US get welfare. Lets throw out the nonproductive, leach immigrants, keep the good immigrants, build a wall, enhance other forms of border security, pay off the debt and only let productive immigrants in from now on. Lets prevent Americans on welfare from having children, while on welfare. In two generations, if we stop paying the wrong people to breed more people like them, things will be much better. https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-HouseholdsKeith How on Earth do you propose we prevent welfare recipients from having children? And what would you do if a woman on welfare managed to somehow get pregnant? Forced abortions? Stop paying them for having more babys, they get free birth control.
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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14.3% of the US population is immigrants. 51% of those immigrants receive welfare, so around 7.2% of the US population is immigrants on welfare. Different people get different amounts of welfare, but roughly 7.2% of 1.3 trillion dollars is an incredible amount of money.
Keith Keith, how dare you submit common sense into this thread. You know that ain't gonna fly here. I
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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Your all immigrants unless your an Indian. They're immigrants too.
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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Your all immigrants unless your an Indian. Not immigrants this land was take through conquest like every other modern nation..just the facts.
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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Immigrant,just a couple generations earlier than the ones coming now,who also may conquer.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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Immigrant,just a couple generations earlier than the ones coming now,who also may conquer. we'll just move them north, your metro sexual leader likes them..
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Re: gofundme/ we the people will fund the wall
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We don't need a wall,our immigration is orderly. Yous got a big problem apparently.did you send some money,lol.
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