A lot of us do, my wife and I saw the writing on the wall and put back a bit. I'm fortunate in the fact that my wife is not employed by the Feds, so we have her check coming in. But, I know of many who are single income families, or have to take expensive medication, etc. There are several I work with, who both husband and wife work for the feds. Everyone is going to have an opinion on the situation and the workers should do, and that is OK!

Yep...I was just reading..apparently a lot of federal employees are in unions..If this is true I'm now wondering why these unions have not called for all of it's members to "Stand Down" in support of their brothers and sisters that are in distress..Maybe just maybe everything could be taken care of by this afternoon..So the power shifts to the people..

The shut down is a joke the only people it is really hurting is a few federal employees that are without checks for awhile. Shut down the government I mean no mail, no social security, no medicare. no retirement checks for the retired congress, senate or presidents. Boarder security, TSA walk and military walk away. Maybe then Trump and our representatives would get something done, its just a joke right now and we are the laughing stock of the world for a wall. Im glad I got traps to check it is the only thing that helps me keep my sanity.

Yep...I agree shut it all down...right now TODAY..."Power To The People"...Everyone stay home Day 1..Nothing done...Day 2 stay home..Nothing done..stay home...Heard the TSA screeners are already doing it

Every year this occurs to the self employed. Since this is a trapping forum I'll give an example.

Last year I went to work every day for about 12 weeks or so in my trapping business. I had a rough idea what my end product would be worth when I shipped it to Auction. My first payday was less than expected and came about 3 months after I worked. The next paycheck was just as bad and came 6 months after I worked. Still waiting for that maybe last half value paycheck that will be 15 months after I worked. I don't know when I will be paid or how much, but I bet my public servants will come out better than I do.

Yep..Hal can you ride a horse?..You can be the leader "Hal Wallace"...LOL

But I'm plumb out of blue paint.

"Free John Now!"

Then figure in sales tax, property tax, gas tax, vehicle tax, real estate tax. Cortex has a plan for you!

As Obama said, "you didn't earn that."!

Dems want a 70% fed tax hike....they are going all in the next two years.

Chamacat- Your "fairly common" must have wide windows. I've been either a contractor or fed for 17 years and I think there have been about 5 "lapses of appropriations" but only two of any length, Oct 2013 and now this one. The current one will be the 2nd longest in history as of Tuesday or Weds. The longest one was a stand-off between Clinton and Gingrich back in '95 (?) that went 31 days.

My gov job falls into the "quaternary" sector of the economy and is fairly specialized. I'm sure I could find work switching over to a NGO or even start my own consulting business but many NGOs have "agendas" and I prefer that my "product" be as objective as possible because in the end it belongs to the "people". This storm will pass and my colleagues and I will get back to work. 2019 was going to be a "big" year for my particular group. We will have to push harder to fulfill those plans...

https://www.thoughtco.com/sectors-of-the-economy-1435795

Yep..I didn't know about the sectors My gig is in the secondary sector..I didn't realize how few of us there is like 15 percent..As far as the shutdowns goes..It's only a matter of time when this one ends and the next one starts. IMO..And thanks Non PC Fed..You must have a very interesting job in your sector..

"The Public Workplace Sector
The public workplace sector is the portion of the economy that falls under the control and guidance of local, state, and federal government. Think about it this way: If the government is responsible for financing the department or organization, such as through collecting taxes or fees, it is a public workplace sector."


" The Private Workplace Sector
The private workplace sector, on the other hand, are businesses and organizations financed and controlled by individuals or private companies. Consider this: When you enter a shopping mall or visit a local store owned by family friends, you are contributing to the private sector. Your dollars help support the business and its owners, as opposed to funding public services. "



Wild arse guess, but I believe the above differences are what you were suggesting?

Yep..That is what I was suggesting moving from the public sector to the privite sector..I realize that the privite sectors has it's own issues..I would think one would have alittle more stability in the privite sector..Then again I may have the whole issue wrong after reading NonPCfed's..link about the sectors of economy's in government..both privite and public seemed to be lumped into whatever sector you fall in..I'm starting to think anything at anytime can effect a person(s) at any given day..either in their control or out of their control..I think one would have to ask themselves where they feel the most stability is...FWIW