That's right. Just like when Obama who is 50% white and 50% black was elected president he was the first African American president of the U.S.

Things are twisted and contorted by the media to become whatever they want them to become. We the sheeple are just supposed to be dumbed down enough to go along with it.

So a "biologist" looked at a picture and confirmed that it was a red wolf. Hmm, I would question his credentials. Even if there is such a thing as a "red wolf" the only way to really confirm it would be by genetic analysis.

Its the same as any "pure breed dog". They are all a mix of something. There was selective breeding to get the traits wanted, which is where the breed stopped. Every organism on earth has a % of this and a % of that, even us humans. I'm white, but if you look through my genetic profile, I'm a % this, a % that. Doesn't mean I'm any less a while male. A red wolf holds genetics of a wolf and a coyote, with no other genetic mix in there. This interbreeding happened so long ago that a new breed of k9 was eventually able to breed with their own kind and create what we would call a "pure breed". They have qualities of both a wolf and a coyote. And why wouldn't a biologist be able to look at a picture and determine what the animal is? You look at a wolf and say its a wolf. You look at a coyote ans say its a coyote. And I'm sure the guesses are very accurate. Same with a trained biologist. They know what a red wolf is. Know what characteristics to look for. Not rocket science.

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I think that line of thought may be a little out of date regarding "red-wolves", or at the very least in question at the present time. New genetic research into the issue is causing many biologists to rethink positions that were held to be fact in the recent past.

How so, waggler? Not being smart, I'm actually interested. Ive always been very into genetics and currently work in medical research and genetics is the new up and coming key to unlocking the potential for many treatments of historically untreatable diseases.

It looks like there may be a change in the red wolf status from a separate species, to simply a hybrid.

Right, but that would be because of current interbreeding. Not meaning that a Red Wolf was never its own species. There is brand new DNA evidence showing that there are Red Wolves currently alive. The reason species tend to breed with other species is because of low breeding population. They either breed with something, or die off completely. They have actually recently extracted Red Wolf DNA from coyotes proving this theory. In order for that to happen, there has to be some breeding Red Wolves alive.

They've been talking about that for several years, I doubt it changes for save-faceism.

The guy my wife got the picture from said when the biologist came out to his deer camp to look at the picture he told him they thought there were 3 maybe 4 on or near that property. How they would know that I don't know. He did tell the guy they were trying to catch them and put a tracking system on them. I found this to be very interesting. I trap alot. I have caught 3 black coyotes. But I have never saw an animal that looks like that one in the picture. Cross , hybrid, pure breed I don't know. But I have caught enough coyotes to know that's not a coyote.

The act of creating species out of hybrids, and due to minor morphological variations within a species should be of concern to us Trapper's.

Such actions are used by and antis and other people with a particular agenda. The same thing is happening in Alaska with wolves, the antis and others have been trying to create what they call the "Alexander archipelago wolf". Thankfully new genetic research is causing them some difficulty with this attempt.

Exactly right !

Fortunately one of our TMAN members shot some giant holes in that movement.


I'm the furthest thing from a geneticist but just because Red Wolf DNA was extracted from a live individual critter, doesn't necessarily mean that there are live pure bred red wolves running around today.

Absolutely agree. For a new species to be recognized, there should be 100's if not 1,000's of years of evolution of the genetic variation to even out before we should even consider naming something as a new species.

According to new research, the Red and Mexican wolfs are both wolf / coyote mixes. Both from DNA not being a species but a breed and not covered by the Endangered Species Act.