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Re: Averages vs. Top price [Re: cfowler] #6464347
02/17/19 12:05 PM
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Why would I try to manage the weasel or mink population ( for example), ? I doubt my trapping them or not has little affect on their population.They are not a profitable fur resource here and likely will not be so in the future. It would be pointless.


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Re: Averages vs. Top price [Re: cfowler] #6464366
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Years ago a local fur dealer told me it was all about the average. Sure a few exceptionally high furs can bring the average up, but he didn't think such outliers were common enough to have much effect, and he didn't pay for #3s.
I really only cared about what my total was when expenses were deducted, no profit-not much fun.

On the NAFA though, they throw out the #3 from the average, but, do they also exclude the TopLot from the average?

Re: Averages vs. Top price [Re: tjm] #6464374
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Originally Posted by tjm

On the NAFA though, they throw out the #3 from the average, but, do they also exclude the TopLot from the average?

Trevis, I think I remember that right, you are definitely one of those people who can see things from a different perspective. Always interesting to see what it will be. This one will make ya go, hmmm??? I'm curious now. I don't wanna throw out my top priced pelt and then figure my average. It doesn't look as good.


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Re: Averages vs. Top price [Re: tjm] #6464388
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Originally Posted by tjm
Years ago a local fur dealer told me it was all about the average. Sure a few exceptionally high furs can bring the average up, but he didn't think such outliers were common enough to have much effect, and he didn't pay for #3s.
I really only cared about what my total was when expenses were deducted, no profit-not much fun.

On the NAFA though, they throw out the #3 from the average, but, do they also exclude the TopLot from the average?


I don't think having the( top lot 1-20 pelts or so )in the average effects the sales average much.

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Re: Averages vs. Top price [Re: cfowler] #6464392
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When I look at the auctions at NAFA, I skip the sales reports and go through the catalogs. I look at the sections that my fur falls in and the size range(if talking coon) and see what they were doing. Then i can make some decisions as to where to sell next or what to go for next season assuming things holds(which doesnt always last).

Re: Averages vs. Top price [Re: cfowler] #6464397
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Originally Posted by cfowler
Originally Posted by tjm

On the NAFA though, they throw out the #3 from the average, but, do they also exclude the TopLot from the average?

Trevis, I think I remember that right, you are definitely one of those people who can see things from a different perspective. Always interesting to see what it will be. This one will make ya go, hmmm??? I'm curious now. I don't wanna throw out my top priced pelt and then figure my average. It doesn't look as good.

They should include all in there average ,,, but I understand why they do not,,, in order to be fair apple to apple average it would need to be by region .
Because looking at coyote grades lately in the country for example the line between heavy and semi heavy is a blurry mess.
Good for the immediate year and (us the trapper) but not so good for market as a whole imo


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Re: Averages vs. Top price [Re: cfowler] #6464401
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In the boreal forest where I operate,the most valuable piece of real estate in the bush is the beaver pond.By managing the beaver at a healthy number you are benefitting all types of of other wildlife.


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Re: Averages vs. Top price [Re: cfowler] #6464419
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Being my first year of actually trapping I found my first experience rather informative. I am happy to brag (just a little ) that my five muskrats got into the high priced category. However I can not say fur trapping should ever be a final source of income. This god given green earth is a garden that must be cared and maintained. (I. Do believe our role is to be the gardeners. ) any who. We have a number of tools and resources at our disposal. The averages tell only what the ultimate demand of civilization is.

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