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Re: The MJ 500 [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6478332 03/02/19 10:42 AM 03/02/19 10:42 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,224 wyoming southeast D danvee trapper
danvee trapper D Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,224 wyoming southeast	I use both traps and until you use them both you can't understand how much better the trigger system works on the MJs it is a work of art not if anyone knows why they are no longer made. I have some I purchased when they first came out and never had to do a thing to them ever. Best trap ever made period they are expensive but when you consider how well they work and never fail or go out of tune they are worth it.

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6478338 03/02/19 10:46 AM 03/02/19 10:46 AM
Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 11,539 Maine, Aroostook Posco trapper
Posco trapper Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 11,539 Maine, Aroostook	It's twenty-six degrees out, the sun is shining and I hear a beaver pond calling my name. Time to load up the 750s.

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: danvee] #6478383 03/02/19 11:46 AM 03/02/19 11:46 AM
Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 5,088 montana R red mt trapper
red mt trapper R Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 5,088 montana	Originally Posted by danvee I use both traps and until you use them both you can't understand how much better the trigger system works on the MJs it is a work of art not if anyone knows why they are no longer made. I have some I purchased when they first came out and never had to do a thing to them ever. Best trap ever made period they are expensive but when you consider how well they work and never fail or go out of tune they are worth it. They definitely are a great trap none better. Kenneth schoening

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: Lone Watie] #6478396 03/02/19 11:57 AM 03/02/19 11:57 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,059 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,059 Rodney,Ohio	Originally Posted by Lone Watie Guys help me out. I know the Sterling 500/600's are outstanding traps, and I know the MB 650's are also, but the 650 gets a lot of criticism because of a "dead spot". I'm guessing this "dead spot" is from the back half of the pan to the jaw. Looking at the top picture of the 500, I don't see where it is any different then the MB650. I'm not trying to discredit either trap, I'm just trying to get a better understanding as to why some folks prefer the Sterling over the MB. IMHO, I think if you use the argument that the Sterling is a better built/quality trap, you're splitting hairs, both are outstanding. If someone could post a picture of a MJ600, and explain why, that would be awesome. Thanks, I appreciate it! Dead spot on any trap is a matter of physics as it's the same place based on those physics. Any pressure on top of, or behind the fulcrum point of the pan, will be a dead spot. Knowing that you can figure out where it is on any trap. http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6478418 03/02/19 12:24 PM 03/02/19 12:24 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 17,653 Wheaton Ks L lee steinmeyer trapper
lee steinmeyer trapper L Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 17,653 Wheaton Ks	I hope I didn't miss a correct answer on the dead spot, but will try to explain it. The legs of the pan, what it swivles on, are straight up and down on a 650. The legs on a sterling are angled back at near a forty five degree angle. That basically eliminates the dead spot on a sterling. All pans will differ from one end of the pan to the other, but the farther back, (towards the jaw) that the pan swivel is, the more even that pan tension will be from one end to the other. Hope this clears that up for you! YOU CAN IGNORE REALITY, BUT YOU CANNOT IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES OF IGNORING REALITY. http://www.lptraplinesupply.com

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6478424 03/02/19 12:33 PM 03/02/19 12:33 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 31 IA L Lone Watie trapper
Lone Watie trapper L Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 31 IA	Thanks for the input guys...I appreciate it.

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6478444 03/02/19 01:10 PM 03/02/19 01:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,045 Nevada YamaCat trapper
YamaCat trapper Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,045 Nevada	Here’s one with O’Gorman pan

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6478466 03/02/19 01:45 PM 03/02/19 01:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 13,910 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 trapper
Wolfdog91 trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 13,910 Amite county Mississippi	Hay is it try there was a 400 model ?

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6478467 03/02/19 01:48 PM 03/02/19 01:48 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 13,910 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 trapper
Wolfdog91 trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 13,910 Amite county Mississippi

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: lee steinmeyer] #6478665 03/02/19 06:00 PM 03/02/19 06:00 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,240 MN Y yukonal trapper
yukonal trapper Y Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,240 MN	Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer I hope I didn't miss a correct answer on the dead spot, but will try to explain it. The legs of the pan, what it swivles on, are straight up and down on a 650. The legs on a sterling are angled back at near a forty five degree angle. That basically eliminates the dead spot on a sterling. All pans will differ from one end of the pan to the other, but the farther back, (towards the jaw) that the pan swivel is, the more even that pan tension will be from one end to the other. Hope this clears that up for you! Good explanation Lee. Makes perfect sense.

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6478736 03/02/19 07:13 PM 03/02/19 07:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 24,371 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 24,371 Wisconsin	I'm going to let the cat out of the bag. Duke Is producing a MB550 style trap and It will be out sometime In June. Will most likely be a bit more affordable. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: The Beav] #6478744 03/02/19 07:22 PM 03/02/19 07:22 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,595 Garden,Michigan B Buck (Zandra) trapper
Buck (Zandra) trapper B Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,595 Garden,Michigan	Originally Posted by The Beav I'm going to let the cat out of the bag. Duke Is producing a MB550 style trap and It will be out sometime In June. Will most likely be a bit more affordable. ???Really,things just got really interesting. Buck(formely known as Zandra)

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: YamaCat] #6478783 03/02/19 07:49 PM 03/02/19 07:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,138 Southern Nevada C cat_trapper_nv OP "Cat Master"
cat_trapper_nv OP "Cat Master" C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,138 Southern Nevada	Originally Posted by YamaCat A few years back, I had 3 Wardens , trying to release a 4 year old Lion Tom from one of my MB550’s (2 coiled), didn’t work out !! How much harder would that be with a MJ 600 or MJ 500 Haha your wardens got issues. A single person can release a lion pretty simple with 2 catch poles. We release them from #3dls all the time. If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6478811 03/02/19 08:15 PM 03/02/19 08:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,045 Nevada YamaCat trapper
YamaCat trapper Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,045 Nevada	Yeah, these Wardens were out of Vegas, so, definitely some issues involved. Last edited by YamaCat; 03/02/19 08:18 PM. Reason: Xtra

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: The Beav] #6479174 03/02/19 11:45 PM 03/02/19 11:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,157 Michigan D Ditchdiver trapper
Ditchdiver trapper D Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,157 Michigan	Originally Posted by The Beav I'm going to let the cat out of the bag. Duke Is producing a MB550 style trap and It will be out sometime In June. Will most likely be a bit more affordable. I'm interested in seeing these! When life gets me down..... you know hunting/trapping season is closed.

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: Ditchdiver] #6479221 03/03/19 01:06 AM 03/03/19 01:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 3,386 Ks Flint Hill fur trapper
Flint Hill fur trapper Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 3,386 Ks	Originally Posted by Ditchdiver Originally Posted by The Beav I'm going to let the cat out of the bag. Duke Is producing a MB550 style trap and It will be out sometime In June. Will most likely be a bit more affordable. I'm interested in seeing these! X2

Re: The MJ 500 [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6479585 03/03/19 01:18 PM 03/03/19 01:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,431 nebraska S scheide trapper
scheide trapper S Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,431 nebraska	Me too Beav, let a little more cat out of the bag please!

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