We just had a training and our firearms instructor predicted people will start live streaming their mass killings. Hate to see that he was right. Prayers for all involved.

The first thing on CNN this morning, I saw they were blaming Trump.

Figgers.

That is crazy. Sounds similar to what the Islam/Muslim terrorists have been doing for the past 20 years or so all around the world. Is someone finally getting sick of Islam getting a free pass all around the world?

When is President Trump going to stop this rain? LOL

Whole world is going nuts!

Although Islam is a direct enemy of liberty, I personally don't wish death upon those innocent who are led astray. My hope is they will receive Life.

This is the predictable consequence of Muslim attacks on infidels when law enforcement can't stop the attacks. That's not intended as a criticism of LE, they do a great job but just can't stop them all, especially when the Muslim communities won't cooperate. That lack of cooperation comes at a cost and we are seeing a Muslim community pay it today. Hate begets hate and generally the innocent pay the highest price. It's a sad state of affairs.

No sense in blaming anyone but the sicko or sickos responsible...Everyone wants to do everything but take personal responsibility for their actions these days..

But at least they are not blaming the gun this time.,

Ya, that's how Islam feels about Christians. Kumbayah, m'lord, kumbahyah

Gary I guess Jesus said " Kill all the heathen (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)" and it was just misinterpreted "turn the other cheek." Now as EdP pointed out that "hate begets hate" so it is not at all surprising. Unfortunately those innocents ,those just praying, paid for the sins of the militant.

Took 20 minutes to get an armed leo to the scene.

Whats New...

I should also say that I hope the shooter, who also was led astray, will also receive Life before death knocks at his door.

Hows come that feller had guns and none of the people he shot shot back at him?

How were they blaming Trump?

was the Russians

Islam is a cancer that can only be treated with radiation.

and Trump.

rotten Shame

They said the white supremacist shooter had published a manifesto filled with hate speech and that it had a direct correlation to President Trump’s words.

Watched it unfold last night, people were giving a play by play as he did it then uploaded the video as soon as it was over.

He enters the mosque at roughly 6:45 into the video, he shoots it up, goes back to his car gets another rifle goes back in and shoots everyone again, he leaves the mosque at roughly 11:30 into the video. Basically 5 mins of him shooting inside and outside the Mosque and you never hear a siren much less see a cop. One guy tried to charge him and actually got a hand on him before being killed.

If you dont carry you will if you watch that video, being disarmed is not a option if you are going to survive something like that.

Translated that means he spoke English ............. just sayin

Aw shucks, just turn the other cheek. Let them shoot until they're tired of shooting. Don't worry about being killed. The Lord will take care of you if you get kilt by someone who hates you.
Me? I believe in an eye for an eye and will defend mine and myself.

Yup.
Anyone can walk thru the valley of death but only some actually come out on the other side of it....

Protect yourself! Don't wait for the police to outline your body with chalk. This is not a criticism of the police as a lot of mayhem can occur before they have a chance to arrive!

Chris

Indonesia, 90% muslim is #4 most populated country in the world....right next door to NZ.

I dont want to post his manifesto but this is a clip I took out of it after reading half of it.

In some states that time has past those sheep by.

All because a woman gave a servant to her husband.

I thought that was an apple.

Read a little further, Gary. Same BOOK, just a 'few' pages deeper.


Charlie

You can bet this just breed somemore terrorist and it will probably be tenfold.

Bingo!

Trump was mentioned once in 72 or so pages, yet those racist clowns on NPR spent a whole hour spewing identity politics and squarely blaming Trump. It was unbelievably disgusting.

in his manifest said he liked trump at a white power symbol , but hated his policies and him as a leader.... CNN likes the copy and paste button and usually seems to forget any context....

An attack on Muslims praying in a Mosque is exactly what Muslim terrorists want to have happen. It fills their ranks. It also makes liberals, who fill sorry for the attacks, allow more Muslims into their countries, to show their progressive attitudes.

Most Muslims are no threat to Western nations, but there are still millions that are a threat. Tens of thousands of Muslims left their Western host countries to go fight against their hosts with ISIS. It is beyond stupid to allow the lower class of Muslims into any Western nation.

The low class of Muslims treats women and homosexuals terribly, yet women and homosexuals, because they are frequently ruled by emotion, make up most of the people who want Muslim refugees to be allowed in.

These reprisal attacks will become more and more frequent as Muslim immigrants continue to rape tens of thousands of women, commit massive amounts of other crimes and commit even more acts of terrorism.

Eventually most of Europe will treat Muslims like the Nazis treated the Jews during WWII. England will likely be lost to Muslims, unless they receive outside help.

Keith

Also right on the money.

Well said, Keith.

In what world does shooting folks at prayer, even heathen prayer, be considered as defending oneself?

I wonder how many christians got killed by muslims on that same day and no-one bothers writing anything about it in the news as it is so common place these days

There probably aren't any Christians left in Muzzie countries.They already been eliminated.It is illegal in Sharia law Muzlim countries to worship in any other religion besides islam.Punishable by death for those who wont convert.
There was a good show on Tv about a week ago explaining it as it relates to Saudi Arabia.

I imagine quite a few Scuba. Those stories don't fit the agenda of the left or 'militant' Islam.

fake news. new Zealand has licensing. crazy people are not allowed to have firearms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_Zealand

Keith. I have thought for a while that England is so far gone that it will never be able to turn itself around. It's an uphill battle against both the muslims and the new generation.
Sort of like trying to Trump trying to battle the libs and rino's

Islam started this war. At some point, non-Islam is going to fight back.

The English people have lost control over most of England's major cities, including their capitol, London. The vast majority of people of English descent, in England voted to leave the EU and it looks likely that they will not be allowed to leave the EU. The non-native population does not want Brexit. England let so many foreigners in that they only have marginal control of England. In a few generations, true English people, will just be a persecuted minority. Most English people will have to flee to other countries. Many English people have already started moving to other countries.

Keith

Gee, this is sounding familiar.

Give'm time!

Go on line and read this book.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/now-they-call-me-infidel-nonie-darwish/1007876018

It tells a lot about the Islamic Jehad.

She was raised in Egypt as in western culture.

This information may give a better light of what's to come.

Just seen the original video he recorded. Disgusting to say the least. What a sick sick
Individual. If you guys saw the video I doubt you would be saying anything except that your
Thoughts and prayers are with the victims. Bc I know mine sure are at this sad time.

People who perpetrate crimes such as this are just sickos who want to kill people.
Whatever excuses they come up with are just that, excuses.
They don't further the cause that they claim to support.

Exactly. I wish I hadn't watched it. Completely sickening. The woman wounded on the sidewalk begging for help and he puts 2 more shots and takes off the top of her head.....you can't forget that.

Some of the comments on this thread really have me concerned. Anybody who feels anything but disgust over this is a blight on our culture.

There will be reprisals for this. More innocents will be killed. That's what this sicko wants and same with Islamic extremists.

There is no justification to kill innocents in the name of revenge. The reality is that we have been very thorough in exacting justice on past evil doers. tens of thousands of ISIS have been killed and pushed out of most of their territory. Ground forces and drone strikes have killed most of those actually involved in attacks. Killing innocents as an act of terror does nothing but give them a recruiting tool.

Truly wild. Cbs showed parts of the video. The police took 30 MINUTES to enter the 1st mosque. He had bought ther guns legally and had a gun card to make said purchases.

The muslim-christian wars have been going on for a very long time and this is but a blip on the screen. What if NZ voted to not allow muslims to have mosques and they were all torn down....which would be then the same as a muslim country that will cut your head off for talking about any religion but islam and does not allow anything but mosques for worship (no one says a darn thing about that, thou). You can empathize and understand yourself into oblivion. There are plenty of places in the UK and the EU where a Christian cannot go for fear of personal harm and no one cares about that at all....it is just fine and dandy. This will be played to the hilt by the e&u crowd. They will probably want NZ to bring in a few thousand to replace those lost.

Poor Muslims. We should send them money!

We spent trillions on muslim countries. But we do not have 30 billion for a border protection wall.

Sad but true.

Yes we do. But the Dems human trafficking and drug trafficking is more profitable for them.

Trump needs to award the whole wall job to Halliburton at cost+ and then he will have the votes from congress.

Karma ....? .........

comin soon to a town near you--if things don't change i'm afraid.

Wholesale slaughter of innocent people IS disgusting. Even more so when it doesn't make the news because it was the "wrong" demographic who were killed...

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/20...christians-torch-church-in-brutal-attack

Incidents like this ^^^ happen all the time and it doesn't get press... But one freak lights up a mosque and it's all we hear about.

Mike

The media views Christians and Jews as the original aggressors.

I don't think so Posco. I honestly believe this slanted reporting is meant to compel more muslims to radicalize and commit reprisal attacks... Which in turn compels Christians/Jews to respond in kind.

Somebody is trying to get a global holy war started... Perhaps to implement a global socialist paradise after the smoke clears?

Or maybe I'm just standing too close to the microwave while wearing my tin foil hat.

But tin foil hat or not... Someone's agenda would profit from such a thing.

Mike

You are comparing apples to oranges. The massacres perpetrated by Islamic terrorists in Europe got every bit as much attention as this...because it happened in Europe, just like this happened in a western nation. Christians are massacred in Muslim nations and it gets similar press, maybe slightly more than when they massacre each other in muslim nations, which happens all the time. It has to do with context.

Then why is it we now know everything about this shooter down to his shoe size... But 3 people couldn't tell you the name of the shooters in France?

Mike

Maybe because he posted a Manifesto and splattered everything all over social media?

I wonder who here realizes that Europe is already doomed to be a muslim land within a short time. If that is not a conquering army what is? They were brought in by progressive politicians similar to what has been done in parts of the USA, like parts of Minnesota. Trump put a stop to that for now, thou. Slowed the plan down a bit, for now.

Approx 4 yrs ago,while driving from the Sault to Duluth,I listened to a radio program about the fact that Muslims were on a path to take over Europe and North America simply by infiltration of govt and by sheer numbers. He used England as a prime example. This did not sound like a radical program. The narrator even described how the Christian participation at Church services was rapidly declining to a point that some churches were having to close ,(no worshipers ,no finances for upkeep etc) while the Muslims grew stronger. Every time something happens now regarding Muslims, I immediately remember the program and how correct he may have been about our future,as we know it. I think both Canada and the U.S will be doomed unless we can get rid of spineless politicians and start to change our pussyfooting to today"s youth. It's almost like it will take a 180 degree change in attitude towards pride ,responsibility and work ethic we are in for bad times.

The guy on the news says we are about to win the war. Al Qaeda, I mean the PLO, I mean ISIS, I mean the Wahabi sect of islam supported by the royal Saud family of Saudi Arabia, are about to collapse.

Just playing by their rules.

Where on the web did you watch this original video ?

Can't find it any where.

Has it dis-appeared like the 9/11 Twin Towers Jet Strikes and their eventual collapse .

(Too Upsetting for the public to watch)

w

And the truth is they were the original oppressed that finally grew a set and said no more and pile drived their oppressors. Then the "bullies" cried foul. lol

If bloodshed makes you squeamish, you aren't very well prepared for what is coming.

New Zealand’s Attorney General David Parker said the country’s government would consider banning semiautomatic weapons, the BBC reported.

Hurting people hurt people

Now a politician is under fire for making a general statement about the situation in New Zealand, but he screwed up because he had to refer to the muslims and for that he will be damned. Our side better grow up and change it's pacifist views in short order , or we are in real trouble.

If a million Christians walked to Mecca and built a church the Saudi government would execute them all in the town square by cutting their heads off. Tens of millions of muslims walked to Europe and built mosques, then enrolled on government support while taking over whole sections of cities. The European governments told the people to welcome the muslims.

people need to wake up to the peaceful muslim crap.one bad apple on a tree,whatever.i know i may be in the minority here but just look what THEIR text says.

PM sent walleyed.

Meanwhile some good news from New Zealand.

Check out this Trophy sized Rainbow trout fishing right off the road way in the Twizel Canalon the South Island

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz8vHvGUnyY

w

He should look at the U.S. and see what good it do to ban anything.

Banning guns will not stop the terrorists from developing greater loss of life & death than those guns do but getting rid of them will certainly give them the opportunity to ensure nobody is firing back at them while they drive over folks, bomb public gatherings or attack in mass as they do in other nations. Folks need to be more aware of how the cards are stacked by folks claiming those suffering from the religious persecution of Islam are the guilty party.

seen a news release on msn Trump says White Nationalism not a threat reams of data says otherwise (not my words) couple years ago Obama says Islamic terrorism not a threat more people dying in car wrecks nothing said

Is a boogeyman. What the left and the MSM are trying to do is link patriotic Americans in with this group of thugs...whoever they are. If you're for US sovereignty, you're a white nationalist. If you support the border wall, you're a white nationalist. If you support mom, apple pie, baseball or Chevrolet, you're likely a white nationalist.

You are the animal they want to drive to extinction.

We need a little more white nationalism . One mosque gets shot up, but world wide, thousands of Christian churchs get wiped out and we turn the other cheek.

This whole deal should get no press until an equal number of mosques, and muslims get eradicated.

It may sound wrong, but ...numerically that would only be fair.

"White Nationalism" and "White Racism", the latter which is usually referred to just as "Racism", since the liberal media pushes the myth that only whites are racist, are both terms used to shame whites into ignoring bad behavior by blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans and now Muslims, even though they are not a race and to guilt white people into supporting them financially.

People should be judged by their character and abilities. The races are not so disparate that there is not a huge overlap of character and ability. Making whites the scapegoat for everything just makes many white people angry. It also demotivates minorities to improve themselves, because they feel it is pointless. The truth in America today is that race does not limit success, as long as you work hard, decently and smart.

Keith

I read that, that is just crazy! whats even crazier is the dems want the same scenerios here with their gun restrictions. common sense would say no guns doesn't work

where i live it could be an hour for police to arrive if the town cop is outta town.

First off, this is a story about Religious bigotry & not Racism. Muslims are a genocidal death cult when they attend Mosques where Jihad is the flavour of the day. There are Mosques with Imans preaching a mellower type of missionary work but there are just as many preaching the overthrow of other religions and secular societies. We all need to be aware of that factor knowing that the violence of Mohammad is a threat to all civilization.
http://sheikyermami.com/2019/03/chr...A7yThTiQeN_TOmz76-B7HdBkn89GFy1_-IgYu1qE

CHRISTCHURCH AL NOOR MOSQUE PRODUCED AT LEAST TWO AL-QAIDA TERRORISTS
MARCH 17, 2019 SHEIKYERMAMI 1 COMMENT
You read it first on Winds of Jihad!

The parents of TWO dead Islamic terrorists, Daryl Jones & Christopher Havard, claim their sons were radicalized by extremist devout preachers at the Al Noor Mosque in Christchurch.

“The Al Noor mosque in Christchurch targeted by Brenton Tarrant produced at least two terrorists, from a very small congregation: al-Qaida recruit Daryl Jones, killed by a drone, and Christopher Havard.

The parents of these boys say their sons were radicalized by extremist preachers at Al Noor. The boys were in Yemen with the guys who trained the Charlie Hebdo killers. A 2014 story at Stuff.co.nz (now scrubbed from the internet) quotes a mosque attendee who says, “A visiting speaker from Indonesia talked about violent jihad and plenty shared his views.”

Three questions: How many news reports have you read these details in? If you’d known that this mosque was a terrorist factory, would it have changed your feelings about the news at all? Finally, how does it make you feel to learn that the media has been not just ignoring these facts but deleting stories to hide them over the past 24 hours?”

In other news:

1st I'd like to say i don't stand for any type of lawless killings. None!

But for the last 10 years it's been one islamic terror attack after the other. And not a peep outta the left nor ! mainstream media other than their efforts to protect islam! Nothing!!!!!

2nd. That being said, I'm surprised there are not thousands of Muslims dieing at the hands of vigilante!

I think that says a whole lot about the real character of the rest of the world! A whole lot!!! We for the most part just wanna live and let live! But not islam!

3rd. Really? It's Trump's fault and all that support him?

Go fly a kite is what I say to that!!!!

4th. Not a peep about this!

https://www.christianpost.com/news/...s-slaughtered-mostly-women-children.html

As far as I'm concerned

The Muslim community abroad won't be happy till they are smack in the middle of another crusade!

They brought the last one on themselves! And will bring the next one as well if there is one to be had!

when that help comes ile be the guy first in the line with a big ol bundle of traps and a couple good dogs, so save me a space on the boat

Do the people in this country want to help stop the Muslim advance? , What Muslim advance would that be ? Where would you start ? Its really the New World Order and a lot of influential people are for this single government for the world. Take yor guns provide for you during the years you are useful after that the chips fall where they may you will be on your own

I recently finished reading an interesting book called, "Stealth Invasion". I'd recommend it.

Read this!

https://www.facebook.com/313269202224/posts/10156977949002225/
https://www.facebook.com/313269202224/posts/10156978212607225/

Wow! I did not know the PM of New Zealand had done that. This is one of the posts to link you posted. We had better wake up.

"Larry Coleman - The face of spiritual darkness....glorifying satan out of desperation and ignorance. islam is a cancer on society and an impostor religion of death and tyranny over people. With 57 havens of islam throughout the world, why does this group continually immigrate to to other countries and refuse to assimilate....because they have but one purpose and that is to force their tyranny and death on the whole world. It is their obligation as children of satan and their quran. Almost 900 murdered in 122 islamic attacks in 21 countries in the last 30 days and not so much as a peep in the media, and yet N.Z. is upside down over this. If that isn't blindness by spiritual darkness, I don't know what is."

everybody thinks,no thats the other muslims.mind numbing the people that will defend that group.

I don't know who Larry Coleman is but, he dang sure nailed it imo.

There is no hope for New Zealand's future -

Not all muslims are terroists..... But most all terroists are muslim.

Their call to prayer is a sign that they have taken over.

Kind of like raising your flag after a military victory.

If they ain't a terrorist, they'd help one. Just my opinion. That religion is not one of peace. Think if I came out and said this in the UK or some other Countries, I'd be shortly on my way to the hoosegow.

I agree with this.

The " peaceful " ones will lay low until called upon

2000 isis fighters controlled mosul, a city of more than a million......what does that say about the residents of mosul?

Either they agree with their ideology, or they are sheep.

isis controlled mosul for a long time and the whole time Bagdad paid the government workers in mosul who then paid a hefty tax to isis.

Kind of a circle jerk.

Sounds like a way they funded ISIS with having plausible deniability.

I agree with Danny. If we were serious about Islamic terrorism, then thhe whole Mecca and Medina regions should have been turned to glass the day after 9/11.

Appears like n/Zealand will be turning into another Indonesia.

"Disarm the Arabs and there will be peace in the Middle East. Disarm Israel , there'll be slaughter."

The Arabs would have to be dis-rocked and dis-firebombed too. Probably they would have to be dis-headed as well, not to diss on Arabs, but they are very violent and don't hesitate to use whatever is available to destroy Jews with. They won't be happy just displacing the Jews.

I disbelieve there will ever be peace in the Middle East. I don't ever see the Arabs ever disavowing their hatred of the Jews. They won't be satisfied unless the Jews disappear. There is no way to dispel the tension.

Keith

This will never stop until the followers of Islam love their children more than they hate Israel.

People don't love or value what is common and when you have as many children, with 4 wives as you can, children are pretty common.

Keith