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Re: Eating wild violets [Re: loosanarrow] #6499046
03/23/19 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by loosanarrow
You are likely to have an upset stomach and possibly vomit if you eat a salad bowl of most spring wild edible plants. The reason is that they contain such high levels of vitamin A that your body has a bad reaction to it.


If I may ask, wherever did you get such a crazy idea???

What you state has never once been true for me or my friends in 30+ years of foraging edible wild flora and fungi.

As to vitamins in edible wild foods, that varies greatly by species. One simply cannot say that "most" have any vitamin, much less "such high levels".

The seasonal variation in nutrition is indiscernible without laboratory equipment.

To assert that "most" edble wild plants will make you sick after a single serving is an epic falsehood.

How would I know?
Been foraging edible wild flora and fungi for 30+ years. Eaten 150+ species. I eat 40+ gallons of wild vegetation every year. (Mainly use gallon ZipLocs, occasionally 5 gallon buckets, when foraging. So gallons is my usual unit of measure, even for dry goods.)


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Re: Eating wild violets [Re: Bigfoot] #6499048
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Oh, and by the way... Do you have any idea how much vitamin A it would take to have any reaction at all??? Apparently not! It is IMPOSSIBLE to get sick from a single DAY of eating AS MUCH PLANT BASED VITAMIN A as you can possibly cram down your stomach!! Much less a single serving, no matter how large.

I suggest a bit more research, and a lot less hype.

"High intake of provitamin carotenoids (such as beta-carotene) from vegetables and fruits does not cause hypervitaminosis A, as conversion from carotenoids to the active form of vitamin A is regulated by the body to maintain an optimum level of the vitamin. Carotenoids themselves cannot produce toxicity."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_A

"I have not seen someone off the street who was taking a toxic level of vitamin A or D -- those are very unusual," says David Katz, MD, director of the Yale University Prevention Research Center in New Haven, CT, whose medical practice specializes in nutrition."
https://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/effects-of-taking-too-many-vitamins

"There is no upper limit for vitamin A from beta-carotene."
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/supplement-guide-vitamin-a


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Re: Eating wild violets [Re: trapper les] #6499093
03/23/19 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by trapper les
What are cowgreens ? technically ?

I really don't know i never looked them up thats just what my grandma and mom called them when we were picking them.Ill poke around a little

Re: Eating wild violets [Re: Bigfoot] #6499100
03/23/19 10:26 PM
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I have them cow parsnips here, and I know exactly what they are. They are abundant too.


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Re: Eating wild violets [Re: Bigfoot] #6499131
03/23/19 11:01 PM
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I asked mom she said another name was crowsfoot but that dosn"t get a picture of the plant on google .the cow parsnips dont look right either

Re: Eating wild violets [Re: Bigfoot] #6499369
03/24/19 10:01 AM
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Not to steal the thread.. but anyone ever use the roots from the corn lilies? or at least that is what I always called them. Think maybe day lillies?? Every farm and old home around here seems to have some somewhere on the place. Wife has a bunch of them in the yard here came from my parents place. I heard sometime back that the old timers used the roots for the vitamin C??? I never looked into it but heard it was why they were so common on all old farms. Was told some old timers made a flour from dried roots to use over winter.
Any one know anything about that?

Mac


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Re: Eating wild violets [Re: Bigfoot] #6500738
03/25/19 02:21 PM
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Unfamiliar with "corn lilies". Common names often refer to several species, usually different ones in different regions.

Roots are generally used for their starches. Typically fruits and leaves are higher in vitamin C than roots, but we really have to look at each species to be sure. Flour from dried and ground roots is a common practice across many species. Historically mixed with wheat flour. The purpose was to make the often times scarce and expensive wheat flour last longer. Also because most other flours lack gluten, which binds things together.

I have eaten the flowers of (common, original, orange) daylily, Hemerocallis fulva and yellow daylily, H. lilioasphodelus. Nice tang to 'em. Have separated the very fine fibers in the leaves for cordage. Retting worked much better than scraping for me.


https://honest-food.net/dining-on-daylilies/

www.eattheweeds.com/daylily-just-cloning-around-2/

https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/how-to-sustainably-harvest-daylilies-zbcz1307

https://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=HEMER

Hope that helps!


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Re: Eating wild violets [Re: Bigfoot] #6501601
03/26/19 11:27 AM
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Thanks DuxDawg
Wife informed me ours are a type of Day lilies some call corn, some call ditch lilies. I dug some of the ones I have in my yard form my parents house. OOnce they get going they spread like a weed. I'm pretty sure my mother got them from my grand mother and they originally came from farm my grand mother grew up on. So their and old line been around for awhile what ever they are?? I've even give the bulbs to others who now have them growing in their yards.

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Re: Eating wild violets [Re: Bigfoot] #6570378
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