Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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I'm building some bluebird houses to put out this spring. Just wondering if anybody else does it and if they have any tips. I'm making the holes 1 1/2" and will face them east. I think I read where they like to have a bush or tree 40' in front of the house for the fledlings to land in when they leave the nest. Anybody? I think we have Easterns here, but I swear I saw a longer sleeker bluebird clear down in SE Nebraska last weekend.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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Our Sportsman club every year builds 75 wood duck houses and 75 bluebird houses. The bluebird houses have a slotted opening. We pass them out to various scout organizations in the area and anyone else who wants them free of charge.
I have 3 around my place. Everything 330 said is exactly how I maintain my bluebird houses. I haven't had a problem with sparrows, more so with tree swallows. I was told the slotted entry discourages tree swallows better than a round hole. Don't know if that's true or not. As 330 said, definitely want to place the house in an open area.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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The tree swallows I had weren't migrants as they stuck around all summer. They are really feisty little buggers! I keep a couple houses with round holes for them now too. I agree, they are a very beneficial insect-eating bird.
I have two wren houses in some high bush cranberry trees. You are right, wrens seem to like being tucked away a little. Pound for pound, they are tough little buggers too!
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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I'm confused about the slotted openings..?? I've seen oval and round. Oval is a better choice for a description. Slotted was a poor choice of words on my part. I'm sure they are one and the same.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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I'm confused about the slotted openings..?? I've seen oval and round. Oh I see now. How high do you make those openings?
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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We have a school whose shop class cuts out all the pieces for us. We have to put them together. I would guess about 2 1/2 inches in length.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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I banded BB for years. I made it so the nesting box could be cleaned. I also put a added piece of wood over the hole to keep the starling from sticking there heads in a taking the baby's out. I just put an extra piece of wood over where the hole was a drilled through both with a 1-1/2 hole saw. I would remove the next when the young were a week old and sprinkle rose dust to kill the blow fly larvae. At one time I had 100 box going. I stopped because I was spend every weekend checking boxes all summer.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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I hate starlings, but rarely ever see any where I live. However, we have a place on the lake where they are thick. We have a martin house and the starlings were constantly harassing the martins until I bought a Starling-proof martin house. I found out from a martin expert that there can be a problem with mites in martin houses. He said to clean out the house each year and spray the interior with Sevin.
In my Audubon book, it's one of the only birds they say it's difficult to find anything beneficial about starlings.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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Then put the nest back in after the rose dust? Yes, just dust the bottom with rose dust or seven and slide the next back in.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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If I found wrens, swallows or sparrow starting a nest out the went. Wrens were all sticks the size of the lead in a pencil, a tree swallow will always have a white feather inside the box, a sparrow is made with everything in the nest..
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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If I were to make some blue bird houses could I put them on the T post that hold up barbwire fence or would that not be predator proof enough?
Go up from the T post with a 3/4" galvanized rod. Attach the rod with bolts or 3 hose clamps. Then up high where the birdhou see is use half circle conduit bracketa to 2 of them. I like my houses up about 8' and on a rigid contuit so nothing can get a hold / grip.
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If I were to make some blue bird houses could I put them on the T post that hold up barbwire fence or would that not be predator proof enough?
Go up from the T post with a 3/4" galvanized rod. Attach the rod with bolts or 3 hose clamps. Then up high where the birdhou see is use half circle conduit bracketa to 2 of them. I like my houses up about 8' and on a rigid contuit so nothing can get a hold / grip. Did you have problems with animals getting into your boxes? I had a snake get in one once that was it. Mine were about 6 ft. off the ground so I could take the young out to band. Nice to see them anytime. Always like seeing a Blue Bird sky.
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If I were to make some blue bird houses could I put them on the T post that hold up barbwire fence or would that not be predator proof enough?
Go up from the T post with a 3/4" galvanized rod. Attach the rod with bolts or 3 hose clamps. Then up high where the birdhou see is use half circle conduit bracketa to 2 of them.I like my houses up about 8' and on a rigid contuit so nothing can get a hold / grip. can you expand on that?
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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I place two BB boxes and one wren box at each location to ease competitive nesting(works 90% of the time, especially if a BB takes one) also BB will most often second nest in other box if cleaned before the renest. I have a bear currently that has taken my houses down as fast I can replace them( up to 2" fence pole, bent like noodles). Even connected one pole to electric fence and no deterrent. Have let a couple bear hunter try to remove it but no luck yet. The more you can predator/pest proof house the more they will nest year after year in same house, IME. Oval hole layout is two 1 3/8 holes 5/8" above/below apart. Easiest to use hole saw bit, start first hole but don't go thru, cut second hole, then go back and finish first. Chisel or rasp sides of hole flat/parallel. Deburr outside and inside edge of hole. Outside screen guard really do help deter reach-in predators(secure them well as coons will really work them if they can get to box. I have had few problems just 1/4 screen floor of nest box to allow pest larvae to fall thru. Good ventilation is important. BB's will nest in boxes that are far more open that most realize. Some of my older split sided boxes are the most used. No leak roof is most important. Extra thick roofs and at least S.walls aid survival. I double space(air can flow between inner and outer wall) the back and west wall of my Peterson design boxes and extra ventilate and face hole NE and have my best use/survival of 50ys of BB boxing.
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I'm building some bluebird houses to put out this spring. Just wondering if anybody else does it and if they have any tips. I'm making the holes 1 1/2" and will face them east. I think I read where they like to have a bush or tree 40' in front of the house for the fledlings to land in when they leave the nest. Anybody? I think we have Easterns here, but I swear I saw a longer sleeker bluebird clear down in SE Nebraska last weekend. l run a bunch of boxes. Don't make them out of wood unless you want sparrows. I make mine out of pvc pipe. You will normally only get tree swallows and blue birds in them. You will get wrens if you are setup too close to timber. Look up gilbertson box. That is the only kind I will use through trial and error over the last 25 years. Set them in open grazed pasture or mowed area. No trees needed. We have both eastern and western. Western are mostly west of hwy 281.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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Donnersurvivor, Heres the poles that have stood the Minnesota weather for 15 years allowing No Pests to climb , xcept bugs. ***set screw at the top through the pole holds the BB box facing a certain direction. The last picture shows the blue mealworm feeder. This BB box although old, is one that has Successfully hatched 2 batches of Bluebird fledglings each of 15 summers here. Also its right out my back window.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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Mice, shrews and snakes can climb conduit with ease(I've watched them). Boxes mounted on it can be pest proofed more readily with the funnel top of a 2 ltr plastic bottle cut off and slid on conduit. Put a screw thru twist top area to hold in place. Vaseline conduit under the cone and fill gap around it at guard opening and you will deter most ants as well(lasts most of summer under guard).
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try building some Gilbertson boxes. Promise you will love them. You won't have to worry about sparrows cause the cavity is too small for their liking. You stab a 3 ft piece of rebar in the ground and put electrical conduit over the rebar and it holds up your houses. You can check your boxes by simply squeezing the pvc removing the box then squeeze again and replace the box. They are slick, sparrow free, easy to check and the easiest to clean. Way cheaper to build as well. I won't use nabs boxes any more. I kept track for many years and the gilbertsons always out produced all my other boxes.it might be different up in your country, but our most respected bluebird organization ( blue birds across Ne.) highly recommends the gilbertson boxes.
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Re: Does anyone maintain bluebird boxes?
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You will never have a wet nest in the gilbertson boxes because it doesn't have a huge slot opening to let in the rain, and the entry is close to the top of the overhang of the roof. Do yourself a favor and at least try one and you won't go back. Like I said I have tried all the boxes and have kept records for over 25 years. The gibertson always out performs all others in my area. The post was done by a Nebraskan, so I was stating what the head of our bluebird society recommends to use.
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Gary, there is a group here in Nebraska called Bluebirds Across Nebraska ( BAN). I went to a couple meetings over the years. Good group. I made boxes off and on for the last 25 years or so. Always made wood boxes from thick boards. Use a 1.5" entrance hole. Made sure the boxes had plenty ventilation under the roof . Seems like BBs like fairly open country. Also seems they like a fence strand or something to land on next to their nest box.... but not always. Sparrows and wrens can be a pain close to trees or a farmstead. Tree swallows can be a pain to.... but they are a good bird.... unlike sparrows. Put up plenty boxes if you are having trouble with other birds encroaching on the BBs .I mount my wood boxes on studded Tee posts about 5 to 6 ft high. This year I started making boxes from 4" PVC pipe. But not the thin stuff most use. I used sch 40 thickness. Mount those with a piece of 1/2" electrical conduit slid over a 1/2" rebar post. 5 ft high. These boxes work great too. Don't get down if you have boxes that never get a bluebird, or have to fight the sparrows or wrens. Move some boxes around after a year or so. Always clean them out each year... maybe a couple times each year. This is a well worth while project if you love the outdoors. It's always a joy to catch a streak of blue around your boxes as you take a drive in the country.
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Does everyone put screen or something for the BB to climb up inside? Do they have trouble getting out of the PVC pipe? I want to do this right!
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