No can do wm. I will never rejoin the NRA, I have read the writing on the wall. I understand your loyalty but for me, the GOA is not intertwined with the politicians and are genuinely fighting to not only preserve our 2nd, but get back what we lost.

LOL!

if they don't get it done, they're the SAME as the NRA!

(and I'd bet they DON'T get it done within a year)

Well, firstly, at least they are trying to take on the NFA, and no, the NRA helped write the NFA so the GOA is not close to being like the NRA lol, wow. Secondly, again, there is no way the GOA could ever be described as like the NRA, because the GOA doesn't compromise. You would think you would be happy that the GOA is doing what there doing lol.

talk to me when they win reversal of the NFA.

until then, they're just a bunch of ineffective "also rans".

just think what we could accomplish if we worked TOGETHER, instead of against each other!

That's what I am trying to convey, If you want to stay with the NRA, that's cool, they have some great programs. But if you want a uncompromising stand on the 2nd, also join the GOA. Once you start reading about them and go over the law side of it, I think you'll see what I mean.

you don't have the numbers or political clout to do anything other than send out newsletters and press releases.

wouldn't it make much more sense to become active in the established organization (win elections to NRA leadership) and drive the already built car to where you want to be; rather than trying to build a brand new car from scratch?

How am I working against you? I am working against the gun control the NRA sanctions. If you like all the federal laws and regulations we deal with then fine. Say so. Just quit acting like the NRA is a supporter of "shall not be infringed".

If there are any federal firearm laws or regulations the NRA does not support please list them.

I hate them all. They are unconstitutional and make U.S. citizens less safe.

you win, danny.

when can we expect you to fix it all?

did that little foot-stomping tantrum make you feel better?

it certainly didn't DO anything to change those laws.

GOA was founded in 1975, but they haven't overturned those laws in 40 plus years.

Have to agree with Danny on this topic . I think in the long term it is going to be GOA who is going to make a difference and not so much the NRA. But that is just my two cents and probably worth not even that.

Nope did not make me feel better. I wish you would join me in fighting to repeal. If you would, together with all the gun owners we could get it done. Joining to together to bring back "shall not be infringed" would make me ecstatic.

Listening to the garbage spewed by the NRA on how NFA, act of 68, instacheck etc are good for us disgusts me.

Michael,

they've had 44 years to get it done.


who has the political clout? NRA


why wouldn't you try to use what's already been built and turn that existing Oceanliner into a carrier; rather than start all over again by welding plates together in drydock?

I swear it has to be a jealousy issue...you have a BIG platform already waiting. why not use it?

White Marlin you still haven't listed which federal gun control laws the NRA has stood against.

I'm not a scholar on the topic and I don't feel like obeying you.

One thing I know for sure...without the NRA, there would be more draconian gun laws after Sandy Hook.

not ONCE in that whole sad time period, did I hear the mainstream media or any politician vilify (or even MENTION) GOA...they just weren't a factor in anybody's book.

but the NRA took the heat and beat them back from additional restrictions.

That, my Friend...is a FACT!

Because the guys are asleep at the wheel. Guess who is standing in court defending the Bump ban. It aint the NRA. those guys where the ones that rode us into that mess that GOA is trying to get us out of. I don't have or want a bump stock, but that is not the point. There are a few other cases where club compromise has dropped the ball and GOA is picking it up. Thats why my money goes to just them. Used to be both but the NRA is not acting in my interest. So why should I give them money.

I am not saying that anyone should leave the NRA and let it die. You pay your money and you make your choice and GOA is the choice I have made for myself. Cn't and won't make it for anyone else.

if they win, I'll be the first to sign up.

The NRA, according to Trump, is with him on the bump stock ban.

Second Amendment Foundation https://www.saf.org/



Gun Owners of America https://gunowners.org/

They are currently pushing for constitutional carry and suppressor deregulation. Where is the NRA on this.




NRA member because I have to be to be a member of the NRA to be a member of the range I’m a member of...


They all get my money, because we are stronger together than apart. But, the NRA is no friend of the second like some people think. They are about getting you to give them money, and that is primary. Just like Ducks Unlimited.

I don't agree with everything they do.

But they have been pushing hard for reciprosity for many years.

but my issue with you is that you seem bound and determined to undermine a valuable organization because they don't meet your standards. don't want to personally support them? no problem, but why try to divide its membership (if it isn't for jealousy?)

GOA members have been doing that for decades. I honestly believe they are jealous of the clout the NRA enjoys.

Why not earn your OWN clout?

It's like one man tearing down another because he can't compete. see that on T-Man all the time.

I can agree with that. Just like certain fans of one type of archery equipment don’t like people who use other types of archery equipment. Division amongst the ranks of like minded people will get us nowhere, we should be a united front.