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how to change a coons mind #6573613
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Having problems on the farm. Got my last sow after she killed 5 young turkeys. She would not go in live trap or dog proof. Got her in foot hold under the cage of her last kill. Problem is got a new one killing my young geese, and no place to lock them up. And idea on bait that would change its mine? I'm using the corn mix stuff, with a dab of Coon Candy or Moonshine on the traps. Have 5 DP's set and it licked the bait off the top and walked on. Thanks for any ideas.

Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6573629
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Sardines?


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6573633
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Need to find where they are coming into your yard and use a smorgasbord of baits/smells before it gets close to the pens. Set right on the trails.

Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: BullOx] #6573637
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in oil? Will they work in dog proof have cats running loose. Well most everything runs loose

Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6573647
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Probably have to blind set a bunch and catch them on trails. Otherwise, use lye around the perimeter to keep them out.

Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6573657
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Bury a foothold in front of your DP's. Or use some white PVC pipe and put 2 traps around them. Pound the PVC into the ground and bait it inside for a few days and let the coon get the bait and then set footholds on each side. This may be a problem with cats roaming


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6573679
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Roaming cats ARE a problem!


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6573719
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Interesting. I have trail cam pic's and vid of live trap refusals. Being your free roaming situation I would do a couple things. I would make sure your live traps have hardware cloth to prevent reach ins and wire the trap to not close. Bait them with marshmallows and allow the coon to get comfortable going in and out with free grub. Then set it proper. Bait your DP's the same with marshmallows which will mostly not draw cats but coons can't lay off them.


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6573739
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Sometimes certain Coons wont enter a standard 12 x 12 cage. Some taller ones have to be given a 12 x 16 tall cage. Mini marshmellows leading into the cage and a hanging baitbasket in the back with black licorice inthe basket.

Loganberry bait I make and use is my very best Summer /early fall bait. ,second is Anise/ Black licorice baits. Cats dont seem to mess with these.


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6573759
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I know a guy that was having that kinda problem. It was every night. They put up a yard light and he and his wife took turns watching out the bathroom window with 12ga. #4 shot. Got him the 2nd nite. Also might put use intercom and listen when the geese, turkeys , chicken started getting excited, slip out and pop him.

Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6573761
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You say the coon are eating geese?Guess what your bait should be.


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6573871
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Sardines with tomato sauce. From the Dollar store. Chocolate syrup. That's what I am using right now.

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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: run] #6573965
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Originally Posted by run
Sardines with tomato sauce. From the Dollar store. Chocolate syrup. That's what I am using right now.

If the coon steals THIS bait concoction, hurry up and blind set any potential coon toilets. He will surely take a beeline to there after eating that.

Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574029
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Marshmallows.....great eye appeal too....have one outside the cage and more in the back


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574033
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4 Dp's set tonight on roads coming in with Tuna in water in them. 1 Live trap set with tuna in it, had soft cat food in it, never got touched. locked 2 white male geese in wire dog pen. put that inside a small enclosure with the gate open about 4" with a trap inside and 2 more Duke 1 3/4 around the cage inside the enclosure. Less than 5 feet from where the last geese were killed. This coon is going to bankrupt me if I do not get it caught.

Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574045
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Originally Posted by 50CALSHOOTER
4 Dp's set tonight on roads coming in with Tuna in water in them. 1 Live trap set with tuna in it, had soft cat food in it, never got touched. locked 2 white male geese in wire dog pen. put that inside a small enclosure with the gate open about 4" with a trap inside and 2 more Duke 1 3/4 around the cage inside the enclosure. Less than 5 feet from where the last geese were killed. This coon is going to bankrupt me if I do not get it caught.


Are you living there or is that just a farm that you go to each day? I hope you get him tonite. You do know a coon has a good reach in a cage and will pull their heads off if he can, I hope you get him before that!

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I live here 160 acres lots of water and trees,we raise alot of birds. I caught 4 coons this month so far, two nursing's sows. Its a on going struggle, but this one has me stumped. I guess it will be another costly year at the KS trapper meet in October for more equipment.

Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574175
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What FoxPaw said- I had a coon that would pull on a board on my chicken house. It was loose and he would go in and it would spring back. i didn't know it. I couldn't figure out how all my eggs were getting busted and eaten every night. After trying all kinds of things I finally sat on the back porch with my shotgun until I heard chickens and them ran out there with a light. I had my wife go in the front of the chicken house while I waited at the back and out of one of the corners squirted a coon? He died. I doubt I would have found that springy loose board.
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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574213
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Originally Posted by 50CALSHOOTER
I live here 160 acres lots of water and trees,we raise alot of birds. I caught 4 coons this month so far, two nursing's sows. Its a on going struggle, but this one has me stumped. I guess it will be another costly year at the KS trapper meet in October for more equipment.


Where you at in Ks? Just curious. The coon problem sounds like a dandy. Can you locate where he is coming from? If so, a body grip in the trail would surely take him, and if no body grip traps, a 1 1/2 in the trail works well. Trap don't need to be covered, just bed tight and scatter some grass clippings to blend, and a little smear of a fishy bait on either side of the trap will clinch the deal! Good luck.

Had one that killed two guineas in the pen, reaching through the wire. Caught him the first night, just a lone boar, prolly what is harassing you!


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574314
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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: Boco] #6574318
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Originally Posted by Boco
You say the coon are eating geese?Guess what your bait should be.


For once Boco I am going to disagree with you. A coon is a curious critter and as such give him-her a change up to attract them.
If a coon is raiding a sweet corn field the last thing I would try to bait them with would be sweet corn.
Sardines, canned tuna, jack mack, marshmallows and syrup. You will catch him, sooner or later.

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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574319
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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574323
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Read any of the Ron Jones’ posts on snacking them into cages. OR look into Jonesie’s buried DP sets with little bits of different sweet baits. Not all coon go for mini-marshmallows or cookies, or anything else. But a combination of baits might trip their triggers.


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Change up lures are cool. I was just giving an example of what works for me. It may not work for other people.


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574718
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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574720
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my dad kept a 22 by the back porch door. it was his chicken saving rifle. you might need to stay up late with a window open to hear them.

daughter and son in law have a pair of Great Pyrenees dogs guarding their birds. they lose very few now. have to dispose of dead stuff pretty regular. had a dead bobcat a few months ago.


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574780
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I'd cover the cage along with hanging an object in the rear of the cage and wouldn't keep bait outside of it either, make them commit. If you bait outside of the cage I'd make sure you have something else to trigger another response in the cage.


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Re: how to change a coons mind [Re: 50CALSHOOTER] #6574918
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I have never had a coon avoid Jack Mackerel or something similar in a dp.


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