Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
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10/03/19 12:43 PM
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bblwi posted on another thread about advising a young guy in his 20s to look into ADC work. I agree but wouldn't exclude trappers in their 20s. But even in the good ADC markets there is only enough room for so many nuisance trappers. And ADC work isn't for everyone everywhere either. Markets have always been cyclical but I've never seen the supply and demand equation this bad! The best way to get out of a hole is to quit digging but trappers by definition gotta dig (trap)! "Its so bad everyone else will quit producing fur except me" strategy has serious flaws! lol
Nuisance work is an option for some to continue the sport and remain profitable. Anyone else de-emphasizing fur and getting more into ADC work. Is it a good idea?
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
[Re: 4 Fur]
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10/03/19 01:03 PM
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My fur trapping has always been basically nuisance trapping for fur.
The thing people need to realize when getting into nuisance work is very little if it is about Trapping, most of it is dealing people which goes against most of our grains and running a business to make money.
Last edited by SNIPERBBB; 10/03/19 01:03 PM.
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
[Re: 4 Fur]
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Sniper has it. The point of the fur trapper or atleast what the point should be. Is to be a resource that thins the population to prevent bad events from happening. Diesease outbreaks. Animal attacks for want of food and shelter. Helping deer populations thrive. Preventing erosion by water critters. The list goes on. At least that's how I (in my own little way) try to plan my line layout. The only big difference in actual operation is the nuisance trapper has to get the last one.
Jmho.
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
[Re: 4 Fur]
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10/03/19 02:07 PM
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ADC trapping Is about 200% more profitable then fur trapping.
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
[Re: The Beav]
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ADC trapping Is about 200% more profitable then fur trapping. At the least...
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
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10/03/19 08:43 PM
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ADC trapping Is about 200% more profitable then fur trapping. I just set 2 locations today...5 traps total ... will add more as I go. Set up fees....and 75.00 per head...makes for some good Beaver Bucks on my lunch hour. I only trap and get paid nowadays ....chasing fur is OVAH.
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
[Re: 4 Fur]
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10/03/19 09:05 PM
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When beavers are this low...... wait for the nuisance calls. Last winter/spring $6300 for 23 beavers way better than what a fur check would have been for 23 beavers even with castor
But.... I still target coyotes for fur and take whatever else gets in the canine sets
Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!
If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
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The point of fur trapping is earning a living. ADC trapping results from poor fur prices.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
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10/03/19 11:57 PM
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I think fur trapping is more "free" where ADC trapping has more liability and pressure to it but like said it pays way better for less work.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
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I think fur trapping is more "free" where ADC trapping has more liability and pressure to it but like said it pays way better for less work. I haven't seen the less work part. Been doing beavers 9 months a year, 5 days a week for 28 years travelling 250 - 300 miles a day running beaver traps.
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
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I think fur trapping is more "free" where ADC trapping has more liability and pressure to it but like said it pays way better for less work. I haven't seen the less work part. Been doing beavers 9 months a year, 5 days a week for 28 years travelling 250 - 300 miles a day running beaver traps. You must be leaving the right amount of seed......to keep that gravy train going. Job security,right there !
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
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10/04/19 12:22 AM
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I was talking squirrels and grinners Paul you know City trapper stuff! You're welcome to ride my line with me. Ladders on and off the truck for squirrels and bats. Maybe setting up a couple hundred feet or so of drift fencing for armadillos on the next stop. Punching in coyote sets on the next. Fur would be a vacation for this city trapper.
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
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10/04/19 12:26 AM
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I haven't seen the less work part. Been doing beavers 9 months a year, 5 days a week for 28 years travelling 250 - 300 miles a day running beaver traps.
You must be leaving the right amount of seed......to keep that gravy train going. Job security,right there ! What are you implying?
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
[Re: 4 Fur]
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10/04/19 12:27 AM
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Like I said a different game it was tongue in cheek ya know, I did ADC work in IL for many years so I know what your saying!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
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For all the modern terms of Animal Damage Control, I always liked trapping fur and still do when I can, to get away from everything. I remember Carroll Black demonstrating the crafting of a raccoon set. He was pure artist in making sets. Whether it is blind sets for mink or flat sets for predators, the affinity is the reward. As for ADC, I have never had the luxury of getting away from it, as I live on a continental divide, and one of the finger runs off of this, and for all of my life it has been a battle with vermin in this natural flow, in trying to keep my livestock safe and not be overrun. I can wipe the slate clean and in 6 weeks the problem flow appears again. The worst of it is the ADC people who dump their Born Free vermin at the river, having educated them, but pampering clients, and they show up here, and I have to deal with that issue too. There is not a day I am not doing damage control work, not being paid, due to ADC work. I would love to trap again, but I can not afford it and do not have the time. Trapping is a luxury for people with money. ADC is just work when it comes to predators and educated vermin.
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Re: Nusiance vs. Fur Trapping
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10/04/19 05:48 AM
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around here you cant make a living adc work ,people are to cheap ,country folk an city try to get 20 a skunk ,an they say know we will just shoot it , an put up with smell , its about 50-50 now on people that will pay , even logging company's don't pay for beaver work ,county an city only pay 25 for beaver an know mileage ,I try to break even ,I do some mostly all for public relations, to show we need trapper !!!!
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