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Church Shooting Near Fort Worth #6709867
12/29/19 03:44 PM
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This won't be in the MSM very long if at all. A good guy with a gun prevented another mass shooting.
Two Dead, One Wounded in Church Shooting Near Fort Worth

Dec. 29 (UPI) — Two people were slain and another is in critical condition after a shooting during a service at a Christian church in a suburb in Fort Worth, Texas, on Sunday morning.
The shooting occurred at the West Freeway Church in White Settlement, The Dallas Morning News reported. White Settlement is a city in Tarrant County with a population of 16,116 at the 2010 census.
One of the victims is believed to be the suspect.
MedStar spokeswoman Macara Trusty confirmed that one person died at the scene of the shooting and one person died en route to a hospital. The third person was listed in critical condition.
Fort Worth Fire Department sent out an “active threat” assignment about 11:30 a.m. to assist White Settlement police and fire.
The gunman walked up to a server during communion with a shotgun and then opened fire, Isabel Arreola told KTVT-TV.
Another church member shot the suspect, according to the witness.
“It was the most scariest thing. You feel like your life is flashing before you. I was so worried about my little one,” Arreola said.
Sunday’s service was live streamed on YouTube but the video that showed the shooting has since been made private.
Two years ago, Devin Kellen opened fire inside another Texas church killing 26 people and wounding more than 20 others before he shot himself to death. It occurred at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, which is 280 miles south of Fort Worth

Source: https://www.breitbart.com/news/two-dead-one-wounded-in-church-shooting-near-fort-worth/

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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6709871
12/29/19 03:49 PM
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pretty sad you can't leave your firearm at home to attend church


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6709891
12/29/19 04:17 PM
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The shooter was thinking “gun free zone” and he was wrong.


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6709917
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X2 Jerry.
I know several churches here who have most staff and their security teams armed and that's not including the regular church goers. They are probably the safest buildings in the state.

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6709919
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Again another shooting in a Gun Free Zone. I hope they do not charge to person that took the shooter out. They need to get rid of the GFZ. You will not hear about this on the evening news.


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6709948
12/29/19 05:30 PM
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Not a gun free zone when I go to Church, and the back row has more people armed than most would think.


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710090
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Yes wonder if it will even be on news
Heres the actual event
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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710091
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It's on Face book My wife sent it to my e-mail .I don't FB

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Getting There] #6710106
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Originally Posted by Getting There
Again another shooting in a Gun Free Zone. I hope they do not charge to person that took the shooter out. They need to get rid of the GFZ. You will not hear about this on the evening news.


Not a GFZ.

Mike


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710124
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It takes faith to go to church!

Preacher said he was thankful for good people stopping it, before it got worse.

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710157
12/29/19 08:03 PM
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I actually just saw the video. I can't post the link because it's one of those gore sites but if you're interested enough, you can google it. The assailant didn't get very far. He got off two rounds and a single shot (very well placed shot) ended him. It was a pretty good distance. I would say 40 feet away or so. Looking at the footage, I would think that the person who returned fire was some sort of security. He was very cool under pressure and placed his shot perfectly. Perhaps a retired police officer? Also, there were 4 people other than the perp armed that I saw in the video but they came with guns drawn after it was over. I believe the church probably had some sort of under cover security. The perp picked the wrong church, that's for sure. Yup, you're never going to see this in the MSM or at least nothing more than a mention. It puts all of the gun grabber talking points right in the dumper.


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710164
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I bet the other sicko's out there planning on going to a Church to shoot people look at this and say, well uh, I think I should reconsider my plan lol. Good on that guy that nailed that sick twisted nutburger.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710171
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I stand corrected!


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710176
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This is the second time a criminal (that's what they are, crazy or not) has decided to shoot up a church in Texas... And this is the second time an armed citizen killed the criminal.

You would think they would wise up by now.

Mike


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710182
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I just watched the video. The only reason there is video is because the church live streams their service.

This is exactly why I sit in strategic places at church or any place I can pick where I sit. I have a habit of having my head on a swivel.

Finster I would say for sure less than 40'. Yup most church security is "undercover".

scroll down a little bit for the video in the link below

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...8rqzxoFuXlH9dyuK8Wun9u5ggK6WLS7SQUEZXwHQ

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Mike in A-town] #6710189
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Originally Posted by Getting There
Again another shooting in a Gun Free Zone. I hope they do not charge to person that took the shooter out. They need to get rid of the GFZ. You will not hear about this on the evening news.


Not a GFZ.

Mike


Mike:
You are right, churches are not GFZ. In Michigan they are but the presiding official or officials of the church may allow concealed Carry.


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710207
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Originally Posted by Finster
I actually just saw the video.


Me too. lt looked like the guy had a cut down pump or semi-auto shotgun and had trouble getting the safety off after initially pulling it out. There were a few seconds where he didn't shoot but fiddled around with the gun. His ineptitude may have saved lives.

Excellent shot by the armed guard.

Interesting that at least four in the congregation produced handguns.


Eh...wot?

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710213
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Thank God and the Armed Churchgoer/ security

Pray for the Victims Family


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Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: Finster] #6710227
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As religious persecution rises in this country the Church will become more of a target. For over 200 hundred years we have been a country of "in God we trust" but we are moving towards an attitude of God we hate.

Re: Church Shooting Near Fort Worth [Re: adam m] #6710228
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Originally Posted by adam m
I just watched the video. The only reason there is video is because the church live streams their service.

This is exactly why I sit in strategic places at church or any place I can pick where I sit. I have a habit of having my head on a swivel.

Finster I would say for sure less than 40'. Yup most church security is "undercover".

scroll down a little bit for the video in the link below

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...8rqzxoFuXlH9dyuK8Wun9u5ggK6WLS7SQUEZXwHQ

I don't know. if you look at the still photo, I figure the hero is probably around 6' ish. So if you would use him as scale, I would figure between 35 and 40 feet anyway. The pews are probably about 4 feet wide so you can use that as another scale. It would be interesting to know for sure. Most self defense shootings happen much closer than that, usually a couple of feet.


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