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back to back wettest years... #6712670
01/01/20 12:43 AM
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Sioux Falls has just set a record for the most precipitation in a single year at 39.54 inches, about 50% more than the 30-year average. This surpasses the record year of 2018 by about 3/8th of an inch. 3 out of the 5 top precip years in Sioux Falls have been since 2010, 4 out of the top 5 since 1993.

1993 was a memorable year for the upper Mississippi River basin with wide-spread flooding from late April through July. At one point there wasn't a single east-west railroad line operating across the Mississippi between St. Louis and someplace in Wisconsin, a span of 500 miles. 1993 was also the year that most remember Devil's Lake starting to swell in North Dakota, along with the Day County lakes in ne South Dakota. I remember driving the gravel road that separated "North" and "South" Waubay Lakes in 1979 while hunting ducks up there. Now that road is under what, 5, 7, more feet of water and its now just "Waubay Lake".

Number 5 on Sioux Falls wettest years is back in 1909, over a century ago.

Things, they are a changing...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712685
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Yep and the deniers keep denying it.
Anyone who has been on the land for the last 50 years or so can see the change in the climate as plain as the nose on your face.
That said I believe man has little to do with it-a natural fluctuation.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712695
01/01/20 01:29 AM
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Weather is so fickle,.it efs with our pre-conceptions!,..been on the land past those 50,...I cant see what you state? The last three here would argue with your premise.

Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712708
01/01/20 01:53 AM
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I WILL get on the Sioux this year to chase some cats. Come (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), or high water!

Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712711
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Winters are much different now than even back in the 80's.Not nearly as cold and more mild fluctuations even in the dead of winter here.Years ago once winter set in in November you could count on good travelling conditions in the bush on the creeks and streams all winter long-not anymore.
And you could always count on a good 2 weeks of crust in march for spring beaver trapping-also no more.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712719
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Winter here as far as I can discern is colder and more snow fall, at least in the past three years. Maybe we are heading in the right direction?

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: mnsota] #6712735
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Green Bay WI has set an all time record of just shy of 49 inches which is about 19 inches over the norm. Last year was wet but the decade from 2010-2019 averaged about 20% per year over the norm.

What is or will be the new norm?

Bryce

Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712736
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What is or will be the new norm?,...your predictions?

Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712737
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Normal is such a misused term when used to describe a dynamic system.

Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: Boco] #6712752
01/01/20 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Yep and the deniers keep denying it.
Anyone who has been on the land for the last 50 years or so can see the change in the climate as plain as the nose on your face.
That said I believe man has little to do with it-a natural fluctuation.


Boco I couldn't agree more. I've been on my property here 20 plus years, it used to be winter came and there was some snow all winter. Now I can't drive the roads without a crappy dirt covered vehicle.
The last 5 years I've also noticed a weird imbalance of critters I never had to deal with. 5 years ago when the snow melted shrews ate every strand of grass in my acre size lawn. I watched ermine dayly hunting my yard. Slugs now eat my whole garden in the summer. Now no shrews but overun with mice.
The major point is in my opinion, it's not caused by man.


33 years in AK
Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712753
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Originally Posted by Boco
Yep and the deniers keep denying it.
Anyone who has been on the land for the last 50 years or so can see the change in the climate as plain as the nose on your face.
That said I believe man has little to do with it-a natural fluctuation.


Boco I couldn't agree more. I've been on my property here 20 plus years, it used to be winter came and there was some snow all winter. Now I can't drive the roads without a crappy dirt covered vehicle.
The last 5 years I've also noticed a weird imbalance of critters I never had to deal with. 5 years ago when the snow melted shrews ate every strand of grass in my acre size lawn. I watched ermine dayly hunting my yard. Slugs now eat my whole garden in the summer. Now no shrews but overun with mice.
The major point is in my opinion, it's not caused by man.


33 years in AK
Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712785
01/01/20 07:56 AM
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i swear i'm growin webs tween my toes.









Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712788
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I like the way that if you don't totally agree with the mantra you are labeled a "denier." I agree with Boco - the climate is changing and the human race has nothing to do with it. What we have to guard against is the new green deal type lunacy from the left.

Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712807
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old man i knew was telling me about the dust bowl years of the 30's. Told me one christmas he and brother went squirrel hunting in t shirts. They had a farm in S.E. NE.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6712818
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Normal is such a misused term when used to describe a dynamic system.


Agreed. It drives me nuts how people use normal in place of average. The weather nerds on the evening news do it all the time. Average temp or average rainfall for a period is the mathematical average of extremes which are actually more common (normal) than the average. It is relatively uncommon for rainfall or temperatures to land on or near average in any period.

Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712854
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I don't think anybody with a couple of brain cells still working is denying that the climate is changing. Anybody with even a little understanding knows that the planet's climate is constantly changing.

What is being denied is that climate change is caused by man.

Most folks with common sense question why liberals are trying to cram that notion down everyone's throats. And most realize it is about money, power and control and has nothing at all to do with "saving the planet."


Eh...wot?

Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712904
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The lake I live on is a huge puddle about 7 square miles but only 5-6 feet deep in the average years. One year it even dried up and the neighbor was able to cut the fireweed for cattle feed. This year it’s about 20 feet deep several houses flooded out that have been there for a long time. Many roads closed from prairie potholes that have expanded across the roads.

The ground water level now is so high if you break through the frost your buried in mud. A crazy year so far if we get a wet spring no telling what will happen. I noticed that water is running under the snow this year in many places never seen that before here.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
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When that snow and ice melts in the north or south poles it goes into the atmosphere and comes down again as rain or snow when its gone its going to be hot and dry. If you think the carbons and other pollutants we have been putting in the air has no consequence you have your head in the sand. I agree climate change has been going on without mans intervention forever but in the last 200 years the carbons are off the chart. The forest are cut or burned that shaded the ground and slowed down snow melt and helped cool the ground. The snowpack in the rocky mountains is going off faster because of lack of forest. We had a 9 year drought in Wy. which led to low vigor in trees, bark beetle came in and we lost trees. Look at weather maps over any major city and you will see temperatures are higher because of the pavement and cement working like heat sinks and the industrial and vehicle exhausts. We are messing up our own nests and it will catch up to us.

Re: back to back wettest years... [Re: NonPCfed] #6712918
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Funny the smart folks tell us what’s going to happen but they don’t have some mass tree planting plan for the world.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
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bet i've planted more on my 50 acres in the last 4 yrs than all of them together.









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