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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Netman] #6742816
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Originally Posted by Netman
Wolfie what fish are you wanting to net?

Well it's varying ,anything from bait sized sunfish to carp honestly. Really I'm trying to get a good general grasp on what all the different mono netting is so j can tailor stuff to what I need. Like I have a good grasp on time sizes but that's just because I've bought so much twine and netting . Mono netting is just kinda a new thing for me


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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743031
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3 years maybe 4 for bunker nets. Rock nets last longer, catch fewer fish. Horse shoe crabs and non targets (sharks, rays) shorten the life of my nets as well. Always something to mend on!

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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743075
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^^^^
What is a bunker net and a rock net? I find all thee different types of fishing methods interesting.


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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743141
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For sunfish/bluegill/bream type fish I would use mesh smaller than 139. For catfish and buffalo/carp 139 is really good.

Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743179
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Waggler I would run 30-45 set nets per day. They range from 90’ to 300’ in length. I mainly used 177 mesh. Mesh size was 5” or6” knot to knot or 10”-12” stretch. If the river was up I fished fewer nets because I targeted eddys. If the river was down near pool stage I would run nets cross ways in the river as close to the dam as I legally could.
When the river was at pool I would fish 200’to 300’ nets. I would have 45 or so nets out.
Also when the river was up I would drift net fish the deep holes during winter when the fish would be schooled up in mass. I would idle over holes with my sonar. If I seen a big ball of fish I would go up river and deploy a long net. Lead core bottom rope and float rope on top. Scoop em up

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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743197
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That looks like fun, except I don't know if I'd want to be tending 35 set nets. Do you hand pull or use a power roller?
What do they use those paddle fish for, seems like I've heard they aren't too good to eat.


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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743218
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Hand pulled. Paddlefish =caviar

Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743233
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Few more . This was in a 80’ hole. I was fishing a 20’ deep net with 40’ of dropper line to get the net down to the ball of fish.

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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743248
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Between these two I got 42 pounds of caviar. They were caught side by side in the same net.

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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743272
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Is that fishery open to new entrants or is it a limited or closed entry fishery?
Do you sell the entire fish or you semi process them and just sell the roe?
I'm curious what the typical prices per pound, either the fish or the roe..


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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743354
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Are you using a lead core line ? If so what weight to get it to sink those floats ?


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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743356
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Are you using a lead core line ? If so what weight to get it to sink those floats ?


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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6743362
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Ok and had a little break through with the mono size deal.

One of my pre made nets I bought actually came from the fishnet company and is a No.6 size mono ( what y'all would call a 139 or .40mm) so I think I got a good genarl idea what the next size up or down will be like.

Looking at this I reckon the 104,139,and 177 sizes will cover about every I could want to do.

Ok so another question . I see in the fish net company they have a No.3 (69) size but it only comes in a 6" stretched mesh. If I'm grasping this right that would have a smaller size diameter and lighter breaking strength than a No.4 (104 ). I gotta ask with that mesh size and the mono characteristics, what on earth could it be used for ?


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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6744072
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Waggler it’s open to any new comers. I mainly fished the Ohio River which is a few minutes from my home. The paddlefish meat is valuable too. Currently the caviar is selling for $85-100 per pound to a buyer. I sold the meat for $1.50 per pound wholesale.
Wolfie I used 30-50 weight lead core. 30 for set nets and 50 for drift nets.
If you live near a net company or have one within a reasonable drive you need to go there. You can buy lots of netting,rope and floats for a discount. I have bought broken spools of leadcore for half price. They always have partial boxes of floats and what not.
I don’t want to sound like a game warden but you need to check your regs for mesh size and diameter on netting. We cannot use anything smaller than 4” here and can only use the 5”-6” during paddlefish season. For year round only 4”

Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6744352
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Do you have to have a commercial license to set for paddle fish?

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Charles yes you do in Indiana and Kentucky.

Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6744481
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Ok another question,say you have to cut some netting to depth. Say you have a piece that's 8' deep but you only need a 4' deep net for what ever reason if you cut your netting is it better to leave the double salvage on the top or bottom ? Or does it matter more on your environment and how you handle your nets?
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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6744502
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I've never done that before but I suppose it depends on how clean and snag free your bottom is. If it's snaggy I'd put the cut selvedge on the bottom so if you do snagged it will tear lose easily rather than destroy your entire net, or you can just hang a lead line with light hanging twine. They also make what's called river leadline they use it on the Columbia river, it has a light breaking strength


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Re: Another question in Gill Nets [Re: Wolfdog91] #6744629
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You could also use tie downs. You take a 8’ deep net and every 8-10’ you put in a 4’ tie down. You tie to the top rope and run the tag end through the mesh down to the bottom rope. Now you have a 4th net with a bag. That’s the best way to catch. It’s soft to the fish rather than a taught wall of mesh.

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That makes for a very "fishy" net. They used to use them (maybe still do) on the Columbia river. All that extra web will catch a lot of larger fish that otherwise would not "gill" in mesh that is too small for them. As I recall a string was tied on the hanging on every-other cork, then laced through the meshes down to the leadline where it was tied off after pulling it up to the desired depth.


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