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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804210
03/16/20 11:23 AM
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Tri state area now in lockdown

Coronavirus outbreak spurs New York, New Jersey, Connecticut to shut bars, restaurants and movie theaters

https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavi...shut-bars-restaurants-and-movie-theaters


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804215
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Yes, I would guess King Cuomo is days away from declaring marshal law ?

Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Squash] #6804220
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Originally Posted by Squash
Yes, I would guess King Cuomo is days away from declaring marshal law ?

He just said he wants the Federal Gov't to take over all medical field factories and keep them going 24-7. He says we need to nationalize, what a whackado this guy is.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804225
03/16/20 11:42 AM
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50 percent fibrosis without noticing that lung capacity has changed is odd. Pneumonia leading to fibrosis ( lung tissue scaring) seems more likely. Of course both are real bad for old people and people with pre existing conditions.

Should us low risk of death people really clog up the medical system if we catch corona? The CDC really needs to be more clear about this.


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: yukon254] #6804229
03/16/20 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Originally Posted by Boco
The World health organization is part of the UN-Yukon,your lost.This is an internationall crisis and can only be addressed realistically and effectively by a world organization,not piece meal by isolated separate countries.The USA would be much more effective in steering the Un from the inside and with the spirit of co-operation with other countries on our planet,not by being isolationist.We live in and are part of a global family,and this pandemic and its effect on the world economy among other things should knock the blinders off all but the most backward people.


Well I think you need to get your information from a more reliable source. If we have learned anything from this fiasco its the countries with the strongest borders and the most control over who goes in or out are having the best success in controlling outbreaks. Even the crazy left wing mayors are praising trump for closing the borders and canceling flights. Look at Russia, very few cases there because they shut down the border with China almost immediately. The USA has done a great job without the UN or anyone else.

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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Catch22] #6804231
03/16/20 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Originally Posted by Squash
Yes, I would guess King Cuomo is days away from declaring marshal law ?

He just said he wants the Federal Gov't to take over all medical field factories and keep them going 24-7. He says we need to nationalize, what a whackado this guy is.

I worked at a paper mill. They had decided to close part of my area but not tell us yet. 1 month before closure they threw all the resources into production to hopefully pack the warehouse with product. Office staff engineers , and administrators where put out in the production area to keep very thing going as fast as possible to make as much as possible.
It had the opposite effect. Our production fell , by quite a bit. Like 1/3. Then we all got laid off.

Putting the govt in charge of things will have the same effect if not worse. Leave the people who know how to do it alone and they will get it done faster.


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804253
03/16/20 12:06 PM
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They don't care about the outcome, they just want to nationalize as much of the economy as possible. It's all part of the socialist plan. Never let a crisis go to waste. Just imagine combining Obamacare with the nationalization of pharma, insurance, banking !

That is exactly what NY & CA want.


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Dirt] #6804255
03/16/20 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
50 percent fibrosis without noticing that lung capacity has changed is odd. Pneumonia leading to fibrosis ( lung tissue scaring) seems more likely. Of course both are real bad for old people and people with pre existing conditions.

Should us low risk of death people really clog up the medical system if we catch corona? The CDC really needs to be more clear about this.


We just finished an EMT recert course and of course Covid came up. The reality is you probably wouldn't even know you had it. That fact is likely what makes this virus so dangerous. People with it can have such mild symptoms that they wont take it seriously and will in turn infect others who are vulnerable. I think Trumps decision to involve the private sector in such a big way will prove to be one of the best decisions made during this crisis. Lots of brilliant minds in the private sector that can get things done faster than any government agency on the planet.


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Boco] #6804259
03/16/20 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
The UN isnt someone else-its everyone working together you moron.

The Blue Helmets are famous world wide...

For robbery, rape, sex trafficking and murder.


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
-Edmund Burke
"We are fast approaching... rule by brute force."
-Ayn Rand
Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Boco] #6804262
03/16/20 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Your calling my country a leech,lol your the biggest leach sucking up the worlds resourses.

With which we produce miracles the rest of the world never dreamed of... and are super eager to have.

Y'all are welcome.


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
-Edmund Burke
"We are fast approaching... rule by brute force."
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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Boco] #6804263
03/16/20 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
The United States of the World.
Has a nice ring to it no?LOL.

Wait a minute...

The entire world adopting our traditional American pre-1960 values, Constitution, vision of gov't as outlined by the Founding Fathers in the Federalist and anti-Federalist papers, etc, etc.

Ya know, never thought I'd be in agreement with Boco... yet here I stand...
Amazing what a day can bring!!!


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804277
03/16/20 12:38 PM
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I wasnt raised to turn my back on those less fortunate or who need a hand up.I will share what I can when I can,and wont whine about doing it either.And my best friends are those who would give the shirt off their back to help those in need and not ask anything in return.I'm glad I live in a country that is like that,and holds those values,and not one that says to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) with everyone else.
I dont like people who are all "ME ME ME" and dont have any empathy for anyone else.That is not the right way to be,I feel sorry for those of you that are like that.And there are a lot of you like that on here,but good ones here still outnumber those thank god.
Whether we like it or not we are all in it together on this planet.All this crap about I'm the best and everyone wants to be me is bullshat.No one wants to be like that.
I always feel great when I help someone less fortunate than I am and ask nothing in return.

Last edited by Boco; 03/16/20 12:39 PM.

Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804280
03/16/20 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Canvasback2
[quote=proratman] There is nothing to treat Corona Virus.

False.
20% of those exposed to the CV (newest strain of the Corona virus, aka COVID-19, aka SARS-CoV-2, aka 2019-CoV, etc) get sick.
80% of the sick never seek treatment beyond OVER THE COUNTER medicines.
0.7% CFR (Case Fatality Rate aka deaths) in non socialized medicine countries.
Highest risk is those over 70 years old and/or with serious underlying health issues.
For the rest of the population it's just another flu/cold.

Corona viruses have been around for a long time.
30% of all colds every year are from viruses in the corona family.
Always have been.

Get used to it.
This CV will be with us for a long, long time.
This time next year this CV will be just another of the common colds and flu's we deal with every year.


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804289
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Lots of people still in denial I see.


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: white17] #6804297
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Originally Posted by white17
Dr. Fauci said that the mortality rate for influenza is 0.1% and that Coronavirus is ten times that or 1%

Fauci is THE guy to listen to.

Flu CFRs vary by strain. Most strains run the gamut from 0.1-1.2%

The CFRs of the two known strains of this newest CV run from 0.2-1.1%, largely dependent upon the patient's initial health and the health care (if any, as most never seek treatment) received.

Initial CFRs for this CV, especially China's, did NOT take into account the total number infected (only those who sought treatment were tested), patient's underlying conditions (advanced age, existing lung and other health issues, etc), nor the appalling lack of care under socialized medicine. This resulted in vastly higher CFR numbers than the facts as known now support.


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804318
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"California ordered home isolation for people age 65 and older and those with chronic diseases,"

Do you really have to order people to do this? Seems to me, if people want to risk their lives?

When we have air quality alerts, we suggest( not order) people with respiratory problems to stay indoors. However, they still have the freedom to risk their lives.


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804329
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You can bet that every lib in office is gonna take advantage of this.


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804334
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CV won’t get me! I’m probably going to stroke out from the stupidity of people first!!! Heard this morning there is a run on milk?? Really let’s buy something that goes bad in a few weeks. First TP now milk. Heaven help us all sick


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Pawnee] #6804347
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
CV won’t get me! I’m probably going to stroke out from the stupidity of people first!!! Heard this morning there is a run on milk?? Really let’s buy something that goes bad in a few weeks. First TP now milk. Heaven help us all sick

I seen somebody with 8 gallons in a shopping cart yesterday. However , you can freeze it to make it last longer , effects the flavor just slightly. Near me is a store called ' Stew Leonard's ' holds the Guinness world record for largest dairy store. They used to sell 1/2 gallon cartons 2 for the price of a 1 gal jug. Same price basically. I used to get that and freeze 1 for later. It worked , very slight difference in taste.


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Re: WE ARE NOW IN LOCK DOWN !! [Re: Canvasback2] #6804353
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Yep but I bet 90% of they aren’t planning on freezing it. Mom used to do that when I was a kid. Good point


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