Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: Co�s]
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04/16/20 11:34 AM
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My father is a quadriplegic and extremely high risk. He has 24/7 caregivers come to his home. If one of his caregivers carries the virus into his home, he's going to be in a bad spot. He has no means by which to protect himself from exposure.
Folks who have loved ones who are high risk have no concern for your ideas about your rights and freedoms. And no one can blame them for that. No one. They aren't scared for themselves, they're scared for those who have no means by which to protect themselves. In a country where our forebearers sacrificed so much that we would have the FREEDOM to do what we needed to do to protect vulnerable people to a threat such as this, your selfishness is beyond comprehension.
Do what you will, but for God's sake stop whining about your freedoms, unless your freedoms are truly a matter of life or death. Our Freedom is a matter of live and death, and many gave the ultimate sacrifice for us to have them. The founding Fathers made sure we had these Freedoms and there isn't a clause in there that says they are suspended at the whims of Freedom gobblers and scaredy cats. So why don't you quit whining and use the Freedoms you have to take care of your people while not suspending my rights because your scared.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: k snow]
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04/16/20 11:34 AM
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Our forefathers didn't sacrifice so much for our freedoms to have them taken away so easily.
Your freedoms aren't going anywhere. Toughen up. You want old and sick people to drop dead so you dont have to tighten up or stay home for a while? We're all going through this. Some people are choosing to take it like man. You aren't entitled to remain comfortable through this pandemic. Adapt.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: BandB]
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04/16/20 11:36 AM
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So, everyone else should give up there rights and freedoms to protect you and yours. Who is being selfish again? Should'nt bother you keep hiding out
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: Co�s]
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04/16/20 11:37 AM
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Our forefathers didn't sacrifice so much for our freedoms to have them taken away so easily.
Your freedoms aren't going anywhere. Toughen up. You want old and sick people to drop dead so you dont have to tighten up or stay home for a while? We're all going through this. Some people are choosing to take it like man. You aren't entitled to remain comfortable through this pandemic. Adapt. Freedoms have already been takin, you live under a rock?
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: oneoldboot]
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04/16/20 11:38 AM
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Why the attitude by some. Well the media hype and massaging of #'s . I'll give as a couple reasons.
An example: How often have you head how terribly infectious, this is ?
Apply some common sense to the #'s reported from the USS Roosevelt
"As of today, 92% of the USS Theodore Roosevelt crew members have been tested for COVID-19, with 550 positive and 3,673 negative results," (92% tested)
That is a 13% infection rate in an isolated environment that uses recirculated air, with people in close proximity to each other. A great "test bed" to actually see how contagious this really is. Same goes for those cruse ships they had parked off the coast before they let people disembark.
The #'s don't support the hype.
Now the CDC has issued guide lines to report "suspected" cases as CV19 positive. Throw statistics out the window. Get the #'s up there boys. Before the peons grab the pitch forks.
This house still practices common sense precaution's
Just to stop some of you who will deride my "callus" attitude. My wife is a 1st responder,so I do have a horse in this race
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
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04/16/20 11:39 AM
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Our forefathers didn't sacrifice so much for our freedoms to have them taken away so easily.
Your freedoms aren't going anywhere. Toughen up. You want old and sick people to drop dead so you dont have to tighten up or stay home for a while? We're all going through this. Some people are choosing to take it like man. You aren't entitled to remain comfortable through this pandemic. Adapt. I work for an essential business. I have to go to work every day. So does my wife. I don't WANT anyone to die of this. Nobody wanted their boys to die fighting for our freedom either. Once those in power take/suspend our rights, we will never get them back without changes. If you don't believe that, you've been drinking the kool-aid. I take steps to protect me, my wife and my family. Do the same for yours.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
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04/16/20 11:44 AM
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I'm still voting for Trump, and doing my part to slow the spread of this. I also don't watch the media. But as your president said ,had we just carried on, business as usual, this thing could of been HUGE by now, with WAY more deaths, but because a lot of people are doing what they can to stop its spread, there are people running around with their "stats" and saying "see it's not that bad" well duh, of course, because what we are doing is helping.
It is interesting that states without the stay @ home are not much worse than the states right next door to them that have shut down. There is certainly not a HUGE difference.......not WAY more deaths......what is being done will not stop lots of people from getting kung flu....eventually they will still get it because there is no vaccine and will not be for at least a year....should we all stay@home until 2021?
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: oneoldboot]
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04/16/20 11:48 AM
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I don't understand peoples attitudes either.
Bribe folks with a couple hundred bucks, and they are more than happy to comply with whatever our socialist leaning government suggests. They even make up excuses to explain why it is in their own interest, and the good of society at large.
It's real easy to hand over these rights now; getting them back is going to be an entirely different story. That, because we will all be without resources,broke, and at the mercy of the government.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: Co�s]
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04/16/20 11:50 AM
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My father is a quadriplegic and extremely high risk. He has 24/7 caregivers come to his home. If one of his caregivers carries the virus into his home, he's going to be in a bad spot. He has no means by which to protect himself from exposure.
Folks who have loved ones who are high risk have no concern for your ideas about your rights and freedoms. And no one can blame them for that. No one. They aren't scared for themselves, they're scared for those who have no means by which to protect themselves. In a country where our forebearers sacrificed so much that we would have the FREEDOM to do what we needed to do to protect vulnerable people to a threat such as this, your selfishness is beyond comprehension.
Do what you will, but for God's sake stop whining about your freedoms, unless your freedoms are truly a matter of life or death. Rights and freedoms should never be pushed to the side for anything. Your dad's caregivers are responsible for him. Not the rest of the public.
No Jab.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
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04/16/20 11:56 AM
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So we should just go back to what we were doing and just hope for the best and hope this just goes away.?
There seems to be a prevalent misconception that there is something we can do to make this "go away". Maybe someday they will come up with a vaccine, maybe not. But until there is a vaccine, there is nothing we can do to make it "just go away". All of our social distancing, stay-at-home orders, and shutting down half of the economy will NOT make this virus go away. It's here and we can't stop it. All we can do is SLOW IT DOWN. I could understand a "15 days to flatten the curve". That could give healthcare workers time to prepare and reduce the peak number of people needing medical treatment all at the same time. But somehow, folks have come up with this wrong idea that if we stay "hunkered down" this will eventually all just "go away". It just don't work like folks! Sooner or later, we're just going to have to face it. More than likely you will be exposed eventually. Nobody wants it that way, but having everyone hiding in their house for months isn't going to make much difference in the long run. How long are you willing to live like this before you come out and face the realities of life? Would you make everyone hole up on their homes for a year? Five years? Forever?
What from Christ that soul can sever, Bound by everlasting bands? None shall take thee From the Strength of Israel's hands.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: jeff karsten]
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04/16/20 12:00 PM
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So, everyone else should give up there rights and freedoms to protect you and yours. Who is being selfish again? Should'nt bother you keep hiding out Whose hiding out? That was directed at people on here who call everyone who disagrees with their assessment of the situation, selfish.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: T-Rex]
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04/16/20 12:02 PM
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I don't understand peoples attitudes either.
Bribe folks with a couple hundred bucks, and they are more than happy to comply with whatever our socialist leaning government suggests. They even make up excuses to explain why it is in their own interest, and the good of society at large.
It's real easy to hand over these rights now; getting them back is going to be an entirely different story. That, because we will all be without resources,broke, and at the mercy of the government.
It's all a test to see how many sheep we have and are willing to submit. We have a few here on Tman.
No Jab.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: oneoldboot]
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04/16/20 12:03 PM
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Don't worry If the political climate changes you won t have another deadly disease or at least not hear about it cause you wouldn't want to cause widespread fear and panic
olden tyred
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
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04/16/20 12:07 PM
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I hope when you get it, you don't go giving it to some older trapper like Paul or beav and he dies from it because you were too ignorant to do your part. What exactly is our part if you would be so kind to opine? LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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