Re: Virginia just got burned. Gun control.
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As my grandmother used to say: "For Goodness Sakes". Why are you even wasting your time on obscure gun issues when the entire world is in peril? Fifty guns and thousands of rounds will not protect you from a virus. So I guess we should all be cowering in fear and nothing else matters. Makes perfect sense.
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Re: Virginia just got burned. Gun control.
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The thing that bugs me about these so called representatives is that now this thing is going to get dragged through the courts again and then they get told that it is against the 2A and will and void etc. A bunch of lawyers are going to make good money on this crap but guess who is paying for this whole show. Yeppers its us again. Then there are zero repercussions for the idiot that tried to push these unlawful laws through. Nothing about breaking the oath of office or anything along those lines and he will have another go or someone else will until something sticks. If they arrested the bugger for breaking his oath of office and actually prosecuted him , this nonsense would stop in pretty short order. Yup
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Re: Virginia just got burned. Gun control.
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I don’t see where restricting a person to one gun purchase a month infringes on the 2nd ammendment. Nor do I see the need for Universal background checks or red flag laws infringing on my 2nd amendment rights either. Doesn't MN have a red flag law? If I manage to find out your name and address and decide to "red flag" you to your local LE you'll be cool with it? Remember... It doesn't matter if I lie through my teeth. You have to prove you aren't a threat to get your guns back. Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: Virginia just got burned. Gun control.
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04/17/20 07:50 AM
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As my grandmother used to say: "For Goodness Sakes". Why are you even wasting your time on obscure gun issues when the entire world is in peril? Fifty guns and thousands of rounds will not protect you from a virus. No, but they’ll work pretty good on the person coming by to give it to you.
-Goofy-
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Re: Virginia just got burned. Gun control.
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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I don’t see where restricting a person to one gun purchase a month infringes on the 2nd ammendment. Nor do I see the need for Universal background checks or red flag laws infringing on my 2nd amendment rights either. Doesn't MN have a red flag law? If I manage to find out your name and address and decide to "red flag" you to your local LE you'll be cool with it? Remember... It doesn't matter if I lie through my teeth. You have to prove you aren't a threat to get your guns back. Mike Great point, Mike. Bet you don't get an answer.
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Re: Virginia just got burned. Gun control.
[Re: The Possum Man]
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04/17/20 10:04 AM
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Apparently my question offended or upset some people. I was/am curious, how often one would buy more than one gun a month, some of you gave me some scenarios I did not think about. I am a supporter of the 2nd amendment. I have bought 2 this month. WHY? because i wanted to. The question should end there We have an old fella who comes to our firearm classes mainly to show off his guns. He has everything from a Thompson Sub Machine gun, a caseless .22, air force survival folding gun, etc. The kids love it when he comes to every class with a different part of his huge collection. With many of his firearms, he'll say, "I saw this gun and decided I needed it. So, I bought it." He tells the kids he's more of a collector and has never and probably may never shoot about 90% of his guns. One day he bought 7 guns.
Most in this country have things people in other countries only dream about. Yet, they want America to be more like those other countries.
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Re: Virginia just got burned. Gun control.
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04/17/20 10:06 AM
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You folks have flat out PROVED you are not willing to stand when it matters. Don't act surprised that there are people willing to assume more control over your life when YOU ALLOW THEM TO DO IT People went to a pro gun rally in VA just a few months ago. Armed. But allowed the governor to erect a no gun zone inside a fence. Why wasn't the fence tore down and armed people standing inside of it???????????????????????????????????????????????
Dont whine about loss of freedom unless your willing to defend it Mr. Clifton- this is a serious question and I don't mean to offend. The two posts above (and most of your other posts that I have seen, which I mostly agree with) talk about people allowing the government to take control. My question is, what have YOU done to stand up to the government? Did you go to the pro gun rally? Did you go inside the "gun free zone fence"? And if not, why?
When life gets me down..... you know hunting/trapping season is closed.
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Re: Virginia just got burned. Gun control.
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04/17/20 10:19 AM
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No I did not go. The organizers were telling people not to "break the law" and enter the gun free zone armed. I could think of no reason to attend. Get arrested. Be unsupported by Virginia's gun owners.
Personally I simply refuse to obey illegal legislation. I have been carrying a firearm, concealed, without asking anybody's permission, all over the lower 48 since the early 80's. I will be the first to admit it has been a lot of luck I have never been arrested for it. I just wish more people would refuse to comply. If arrested have a jury trial, refuse a plea bargain, hope you get another believer of individual liberty on the jury.
These laws of infringement on OUR rights will continue to exist so long as we tolerate them.
FWIW I have completely ignored the proclamations that are supposed to give government authority to infringe on OUR first amendment rights also.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Virginia just got burned. Gun control.
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Thank you for your (civil) response. Maybe your reasons are the same as many other people's reasons (getting arrested with no support). I for one, am disgusted and sick of the government's over reach. I am to the point of standing up, raising arms and holding my ground. The problem is, without others (and it would take MANY others) I would make my stand, I would be killed, my family would be left without me and it would be washed under the rug without making a difference to the cause. I do however believe that, if things dont change, it will come to that point for many people and there will be another civil war.
When life gets me down..... you know hunting/trapping season is closed.
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Re: Virginia just got burned. Gun control.
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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04/17/20 10:38 AM
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I dont think there would have been any killing for occupying that "gun free " zone. Arrests almost certainly. Would have been a LOT of jury trials. Enough I think the protesters would have likely just been released If 3-400 would have entered armed. It did not happen. So what reason do legislators have to think think that more infringement will not be tolerated?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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