Re: Purlins to trusses, nails or screws ?
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I removed a sub-floor once (3/4 T&G plywood) that had been fastened with screws, the floor had only been down for a year. At least 3/4 of the screws were broken, that was a revealing surprise. I don't know if it was bad screws,or if the constant expansion and contraction of the building caused the failure.
I have never lived in tornado country, so maybe screws on a roof are a good idea?? In earthquake country it's best that a building is somewhat flexible.
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Re: Purlins to trusses, nails or screws ?
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I removed a sub-floor once (3/4 T&G plywood) that had been fastened with screws, the floor had only been down for a year. At least 3/4 of the screws were broken, that was a revealing surprise. I don't know if it was bad screws,or if the constant expansion and contraction of the building caused the failure.
I have never lived in tornado country, so maybe screws on a roof are a good idea?? In earthquake country it's best that a building is somewhat flexible. Do you reckon expansion/contraction or the constant flexing from traffic walking over it? Mike
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Re: Purlins to trusses, nails or screws ?
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Code will say nails. Some kind of screw will work but the standard deck screw is too brittle and will break over time.
Ring shank nails or coated sinkers if uplift is a concern. I like coated sinkers.
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Re: Purlins to trusses, nails or screws ?
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Mike, you can use my nail gun and my hose and compressor. The nails have some kind of glue/ cement on them and the speed that they are driven heats up the glue and they are tough to pull.
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Re: Purlins to trusses, nails or screws ?
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Constant flexion or movement however small will break screws. Generally floors are screwed and glued down here which is acceptable because the glue prevents movement.
If you build a floating dock with screws a year later you can usually disassemble it by hand. Also, when putting down deck boards over 2x6 we nail because the larger width boards expand and contract too much. Put down 2x12 cedar decking and in two years the boards will be loose.
Try it yourself. Drive a screw into a board and bend it to 90 degrees. It will snap off. Try it with a nail and you can bend it back and forth till your arm gets sore.
That's why Ontario building code prohibits screws for structural framing. Screws are great for assembling things and getting stuff right, but we always nail it off after.
If I have a nail gun I can get things just as tight though in most cases and way faster also.
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Re: Purlins to trusses, nails or screws ?
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when putting in nails from a gun or by hammer putting them in at different angles besides the coating or ring shank will also help pull up.
so that the nails are like a cross staked trap. I do the same with screws.
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Re: Purlins to trusses, nails or screws ?
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I removed a sub-floor once (3/4 T&G plywood) that had been fastened with screws, the floor had only been down for a year. At least 3/4 of the screws were broken, that was a revealing surprise. I don't know if it was bad screws,or if the constant expansion and contraction of the building caused the failure.
I have never lived in tornado country, so maybe screws on a roof are a good idea?? In earthquake country it's best that a building is somewhat flexible. Do you reckon expansion/contraction or the constant flexing from traffic walking over it? Mike The floor had almost zero foot trafic on it in the year or so it was down.
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Re: Purlins to trusses, nails or screws ?
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"Hurricane Ties" (galvanized plates bent for specific applications) and ring shank nails will hold better than screws or nails will by themselves.
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