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I bet if you had a gun set up to shoot them, they would be just fine out to 75 at least. Get used to your gun, know where it shoots, know its limitations. I'll bet you could kill more deer than 50% of the people deer hunting with guns they never site in and only take out of the house once a year.
You’re half right, need to know limitations. But a .410s limitation is well under 75 yards. Just no energy left, I think at 30 yards most lung shots still wouldn’t pass through.
An arrow is a far more efficient weapon to be honest. But a 20 gauge will shoot in dense brush too.
.410 slug is a poor deer round! Yep, with proper close round shots they ( will) kill but do not have the energy too be a reliable round for deer. And YES, I grew up and have seen hundreds of deer killed with shotgun slugs That round I would consider an " experts" round, NOT for a novice. My 2 cents worth with years of experience.
Edited. MMagis, no!! A 20 is NO better in the " brush"
Last edited by bucksnbears; 08/27/2009:39 PM.
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I bet if you had a gun set up to shoot them, they would be just fine out to 75 at least. Get used to your gun, know where it shoots, know its limitations. I'll bet you could kill more deer than 50% of the people deer hunting with guns they never site in and only take out of the house once a year.
You’re half right, need to know limitations. But a .410s limitation is well under 75 yards. Just no energy left, I think at 30 yards most lung shots still wouldn’t pass through.
An arrow is a far more efficient weapon to be honest. But a 20 gauge will shoot in dense brush too.
I have bee told the same type thing about 357 mag in a carbine. "It's only good our to 75 yards max". Old gunship owner. I just smiled a debated on if I should tell him about the two deer I shot the evening before one a shot at 85 and the other at 145 yards. Both pass through. 85 yard Heart shot went 65 yards 145 yard head shot dropped of course . Know your gun.
Well It looks like I won't be able to try It out. But at 30 yards and under I can't see how It wouldn't kill a deer.
it likely would .
the 20 puts them down very well , with the rifled slugs at 30 yards
the Sabots from a rifled barrel work well out to 100
the Muzzle loader would drop them also especially at 20-75 yards you can work the load down some if your worried about it traveling too far
when hunting crowded areas breaking bone is good , no chasing them that way no arguments over deer and no need to go drag them out of the front yard of the condos quick.
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Just a random thought. I couldn't find anything on the subject with a quick Google search, but I wonder if the mini shell slugs would be effective on deer at close range. I understand that there are feeding issues in many repeating shotguns, but single shots and double barrels should do fine with them.
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Don’t mean to split hairs Pike River. But ... a slug kills by blunt force trauma, and punching holes in vital organs, heart, lungs, liver, spine etc etc. Roy Weatherby coined the phrase “Hydrostatic Shock”. It describes the phenomenon of liquids not being compressible and becoming secondary projectiles when pushed out of the way by the primary projectiles shockwave. Mr. Weatherby claimed this phenomenon occurred when projectiles traveling at speeds exceeding 2800fps encounter high water content tissue, lungs for example. The result can be easily observed by the amount of “bloodshot” meat around the wound channel with high velocity cartridges . There is a saying among old timers that with the slower cartridges, 45/70 for example “you can eat right up to the hole”. This is also the reason that small, high velocity bullets often kill more quickly than slower heavier bullets that actually penetrate better. The smaller faster bullet “dumps” more energy through hydrostatic shock even though the heavier bullet penetrates sometimes twice as much. And every bullet that exits the off side of the animal takes with it energy that was not transferred to the animal. Conversely a heavy slower bullet may have the penetration to get to the vitals of a large heavy animal whereas a lighter and faster projectile might not. As always hope this helps.
The Brenneke slugs are recommended by most that use a 410, the regular slugs not so much. The self defense rounds just don't have enough velocity to carry much energy, from one side of a room to another then sure.
Congested area are a problem with anything, except a head shot, way too many examples of bow and crossbow killed deer landing on the neighbors lawn or in the pool....
Edited. MMagis, no!! A 20 is NO better in the " brush"
Not sure what you mean? Perhaps you misunderstood me. I said a 20 gauge could be used for close range shots in dense brush just the same as a .410, but would be a much better choice. There's no need to use such a small gun just because the shots may be close.
5o years ago after months of begging my Dad he finally gave in and allowed me to join the group. 15 minutes into the season a doe came poking out of the brush 30 yards from my stand which was up in an oak tree.
I hit her with an angling shot behind the left shoulder and into the right. I thought for sure she had gotten away but 40 yards from my tree, down a ravine she laid in a heap. I would like to say that was the only deer I had shot with a 410 but the following year, out of the same tree, I shot a Y buck with my trusty 410.
That Christmas, my Dad gave me a beautiful Winchester 30-30 which I still have.
grandma with a deer she kill with 410 , she probably kill more deer with a 410 than most of us , she feed an raise 9 kids on venison, she was only 4foot 11inches , so she would not shoot a bigger gun an didn't need to
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