Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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08/29/20 11:34 AM
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I feel so bad for those who go through such trauma , that is what it truly is for them.
I have believed for decades, that all citizens should take self-defense class, even a little , to get into the mindset of planning ahead what they would do, being aware of their surroundings , having a plan. Instead of freezing in fright. So many grow up with no exposure to self-preservation , or what they would do if unfortunate circumstance presented itself. Especially women. At any age, is not too late to learn a few effective moves.
Being aware in parking lots is vital. Looking way ahead driving in . There are those areas of the country, where predators are known to troll for victims , being approached by natives in sets of two or more, in rez country, or others in cities , whatever is prevalent to the cultural population. Intimidating in groups for money.
Locking sight onto those who have targeted you at a distance, puts them off before they get to you, they look for those exhibiting timid body language , eyes down, or distracted. Some people have great success using their "big voice" warning them to back off before they get even 20 feet away.
Seeing what is happening around you at distance really helps to plan ahead, either to walk back from where you came, or change direction . When leaving the store, always scan underneath parked cars for feet on the other side, but not seen above the hoods.
The choice to stop, and go back from where you came is always an option, if proceeding ahead feels dangerous. Never second guess your instinct.
I like to park in places where I won't be blocked from a car parked in the opposite side. I can drive over the cement block, and into the green space between parking lanes if I need to. My truck is high enough, and 4x4, is no problem. Thinking outside the box in driving is key , when needed. I also like to back in , instead of pulling straight in .
In the case of being blocked from leaving, I would enter my truck, roll down the window, start up, pistol in hand, lowered . Glaring , locked onto them. Depending on what they would do, if they amped up confrontation , or got out to approach, two choices , for me, either roll into their car, and move it, or if they get to the window, take clear aim. Sitting there blocked in is not an option for me, waiting for bullies to tire of threats and name-calling , amping up to physical contact.
For people who have not mentally planned survival modes, those decisions would be difficult to execute, much less think of. That's why so many videos show drivers just sitting in the road while thugs break windows and pull them out of their rig. They are programmed to not hurt anyone, run them over, or take any action to defend themselves.
The grizzly mindset , the whirlwind of protecting her cubs, has been absent from modern humans for a long time.
I would rather explain the real scenarios that everyone sees in videos to a judge, than be yet another victim . Every time I see videos like that, it never ends well for the ones bullied. In your face screaming eventually leads to contact. Rarely does it limit to non touch screaming only. Even that is enough of a threat to make the choice in defense. I don't know of one veteran who would stand for a megaphone blaring inches from his ears , in BATTERY of noise torture, who wouldn't take that nonsense down in short order.
Train those in the family . Just being aware way ahead can help a lot.
Controlled anger motivates. Fear paralyzes.
It is all mindset.
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Blaine County]
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08/29/20 11:35 AM
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HobbieTrapper
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We are where we are because of failure to accept the AMERICAN culture. It worked for nearly every ethnicity that came here. Then there was this big push to return to “your” culture and now we have a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) show. There needs to be a caveat here because, in fairness, the original blacks didn't just "come here." Regardless, coming here on slave ship is no excuse for the behavior we see now. The 13th and 14th Amendments were an opportunity for them to become Americans and an invitation to get things sorted out. The Civil Rights Act was another nudge. A lot of them, and frankly some whites (white deadbeats and white guilt driven BLM supporters), just don't get it. I don't think they want to get it. Work, contribute, be responsible, don't make excuses, don't commit crime--that should be the American culture. I don't care what kind of food you eat or what kind of music you listen to--keep that culture. They didn’t leave when they could either.
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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08/29/20 11:35 AM
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.357 mag fixes everything
Trapping is what built North America, why take that away?
pro second amendment-- pro God-- pro Trump-- Pro America!
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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08/29/20 11:47 AM
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Jiggamitch
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Ok, I don't think we have gotten the entire story here. Something is not adding up. So in a Walmart parking lot with hundreds of people and cars, the OP's wife was singled out? Why? Not that BLM needs a reason but it would seem that with all of those people, the chances of being singled out are pretty slim. Was she in a very black neighborhood? Was she dressed to the nines? Does she have a confederate flag bumper sticker or some other sign? I'm not trying to pass blame, that's for sure and I'm not calling anyone a liar. I would just like to understand the entire story because things are not adding up. Denison, TX does have a larger population of black people than the neighboring towns, but I wouldn't call it a black neighborhood. There is a bumper sticker on her dodge journey that says "let's pretend this isn't a minivan." My wife would find it funny that anyone would suggest she was dressed to the nines. She is a jeans and t-shirt girl. My wife seems to think she was targeted simply because she had a first row parking spot....and she was white and alone. She did tell me that neither of the black men in the car were saying anything, only the 2 large white women with them.
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Sharon]
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08/29/20 11:49 AM
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I feel so bad for those who go through such trauma , that is what it truly is for them.
I have believed for decades, that all citizens should take self-defense class, even a little , to get into the mindset of planning ahead what they would do, being aware of their surroundings , having a plan. Instead of freezing in fright. So many grow up with no exposure to self-preservation , or what they would do if unfortunate circumstance presented itself. Especially women. At any age, is not too late to learn a few effective moves.
Being aware in parking lots is vital. Looking way ahead driving in . There are those areas of the country, where predators are known to troll for victims , being approached by natives in sets of two or more, in rez country, or others in cities , whatever is prevalent to the cultural population. Intimidating in groups for money.
Locking sight onto those who have targeted you at a distance, puts them off before they get to you, they look for those exhibiting timid body language , eyes down, or distracted. Some people have great success using their "big voice" warning them to back off before they get even 20 feet away.
Seeing what is happening around you at distance really helps to plan ahead, either to walk back from where you came, or change direction . When leaving the store, always scan underneath parked cars for feet on the other side, but not seen above the hoods.
The choice to stop, and go back from where you came is always an option, if proceeding ahead feels dangerous. Never second guess your instinct.
I like to park in places where I won't be blocked from a car parked in the opposite side. I can drive over the cement block, and into the green space between parking lanes if I need to. My truck is high enough, and 4x4, is no problem. Thinking outside the box in driving is key , when needed. I also like to back in , instead of pulling straight in .
In the case of being blocked from leaving, I would enter my truck, roll down the window, start up, pistol in hand, lowered . Glaring , locked onto them. Depending on what they would do, if they amped up confrontation , or got out to approach, two choices , for me, either roll into their car, and move it, or if they get to the window, take clear aim. Sitting there blocked in is not an option for me, waiting for bullies to tire of threats and name-calling , amping up to physical contact.
For people who have not mentally planned survival modes, those decisions would be difficult to execute, much less think of. That's why so many videos show drivers just sitting in the road while thugs break windows and pull them out of their rig. They are programmed to not hurt anyone, run them over, or take any action to defend themselves.
The grizzly mindset , the whirlwind of protecting her cubs, has been absent from modern humans for a long time.
I would rather explain the real scenarios that everyone sees in videos to a judge, than be yet another victim . Every time I see videos like that, it never ends well for the ones bullied. In your face screaming eventually leads to contact. Rarely does it limit to non touch screaming only. Even that is enough of a threat to make the choice in defense. I don't know of one veteran who would stand for a megaphone blaring inches from his ears , in BATTERY of noise torture, who wouldn't take that nonsense down in short order.
Train those in the family . Just being aware way ahead can help a lot.
Controlled anger motivates. Fear paralyzes.
It is all mindset.
AMEN !
Mean As Nails
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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08/29/20 11:58 AM
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Posts: 11,437 Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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Just the end of the USA as we know it..... Ye of little faith. Sometimes it takes more faith to see the truth, as it can be scary. With that I said I'm not sure what the outcome will be but the direction we are headed is picking up speed and we are getting closer to the point of a run away
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Sharon]
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08/29/20 11:58 AM
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Savell
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I feel so bad for those who go through such trauma , that is what it truly is for them.
I have believed for decades, that all citizens should take self-defense class, even a little , to get into the mindset of planning ahead what they would do, being aware of their surroundings , having a plan. Instead of freezing in fright. So many grow up with no exposure to self-preservation , or what they would do if unfortunate circumstance presented itself. Especially women. At any age, is not too late to learn a few effective moves.
Being aware in parking lots is vital. Looking way ahead driving in . There are those areas of the country, where predators are known to troll for victims , being approached by natives in sets of two or more, in rez country, or others in cities , whatever is prevalent to the cultural population. Intimidating in groups for money.
Locking sight onto those who have targeted you at a distance, puts them off before they get to you, they look for those exhibiting timid body language , eyes down, or distracted. Some people have great success using their "big voice" warning them to back off before they get even 20 feet away.
Seeing what is happening around you at distance really helps to plan ahead, either to walk back from where you came, or change direction . When leaving the store, always scan underneath parked cars for feet on the other side, but not seen above the hoods.
The choice to stop, and go back from where you came is always an option, if proceeding ahead feels dangerous. Never second guess your instinct.
I like to park in places where I won't be blocked from a car parked in the opposite side. I can drive over the cement block, and into the green space between parking lanes if I need to. My truck is high enough, and 4x4, is no problem. Thinking outside the box in driving is key , when needed. I also like to back in , instead of pulling straight in .
In the case of being blocked from leaving, I would enter my truck, roll down the window, start up, pistol in hand, lowered . Glaring , locked onto them. Depending on what they would do, if they amped up confrontation , or got out to approach, two choices , for me, either roll into their car, and move it, or if they get to the window, take clear aim. Sitting there blocked in is not an option for me, waiting for bullies to tire of threats and name-calling , amping up to physical contact.
For people who have not mentally planned survival modes, those decisions would be difficult to execute, much less think of. That's why so many videos show drivers just sitting in the road while thugs break windows and pull them out of their rig. They are programmed to not hurt anyone, run them over, or take any action to defend themselves.
The grizzly mindset , the whirlwind of protecting her cubs, has been absent from modern humans for a long time.
I would rather explain the real scenarios that everyone sees in videos to a judge, than be yet another victim . Every time I see videos like that, it never ends well for the ones bullied. In your face screaming eventually leads to contact. Rarely does it limit to non touch screaming only. Even that is enough of a threat to make the choice in defense. I don't know of one veteran who would stand for a megaphone blaring inches from his ears , in BATTERY of noise torture, who wouldn't take that nonsense down in short order.
Train those in the family . Just being aware way ahead can help a lot.
Controlled anger motivates. Fear paralyzes.
It is all mindset.
.... I need to remember to never walk up and ask Sharon if she needs help loading her groceries lol
Insert profound nonsense here
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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08/29/20 11:59 AM
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Marty
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Just the end of the USA as we know it..... Ye of little faith. If you want to underestimate what is happening have at it, I am not going down that path. Awareness is a wonderful thing.
Rise and Rise Again Until Lambs Become Lions
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Sharon]
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08/29/20 12:00 PM
08/29/20 12:00 PM
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Posts: 30,725 Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
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I feel so bad for those who go through such trauma , that is what it truly is for them.
I have believed for decades, that all citizens should take self-defense class, even a little , to get into the mindset of planning ahead what they would do, being aware of their surroundings , having a plan. Instead of freezing in fright. So many grow up with no exposure to self-preservation , or what they would do if unfortunate circumstance presented itself. Especially women. At any age, is not too late to learn a few effective moves.
Being aware in parking lots is vital. Looking way ahead driving in . There are those areas of the country, where predators are known to troll for victims , being approached by natives in sets of two or more, in rez country, or others in cities , whatever is prevalent to the cultural population. Intimidating in groups for money.
Locking sight onto those who have targeted you at a distance, puts them off before they get to you, they look for those exhibiting timid body language , eyes down, or distracted. Some people have great success using their "big voice" warning them to back off before they get even 20 feet away.
Seeing what is happening around you at distance really helps to plan ahead, either to walk back from where you came, or change direction . When leaving the store, always scan underneath parked cars for feet on the other side, but not seen above the hoods.
The choice to stop, and go back from where you came is always an option, if proceeding ahead feels dangerous. Never second guess your instinct.
I like to park in places where I won't be blocked from a car parked in the opposite side. I can drive over the cement block, and into the green space between parking lanes if I need to. My truck is high enough, and 4x4, is no problem. Thinking outside the box in driving is key , when needed. I also like to back in , instead of pulling straight in .
In the case of being blocked from leaving, I would enter my truck, roll down the window, start up, pistol in hand, lowered . Glaring , locked onto them. Depending on what they would do, if they amped up confrontation , or got out to approach, two choices , for me, either roll into their car, and move it, or if they get to the window, take clear aim. Sitting there blocked in is not an option for me, waiting for bullies to tire of threats and name-calling , amping up to physical contact.
For people who have not mentally planned survival modes, those decisions would be difficult to execute, much less think of. That's why so many videos show drivers just sitting in the road while thugs break windows and pull them out of their rig. They are programmed to not hurt anyone, run them over, or take any action to defend themselves.
The grizzly mindset , the whirlwind of protecting her cubs, has been absent from modern humans for a long time.
I would rather explain the real scenarios that everyone sees in videos to a judge, than be yet another victim . Every time I see videos like that, it never ends well for the ones bullied. In your face screaming eventually leads to contact. Rarely does it limit to non touch screaming only. Even that is enough of a threat to make the choice in defense. I don't know of one veteran who would stand for a megaphone blaring inches from his ears , in BATTERY of noise torture, who wouldn't take that nonsense down in short order.
Train those in the family . Just being aware way ahead can help a lot.
Controlled anger motivates. Fear paralyzes.
It is all mindset.
Thank you for this. I’m going to share it with my wife, who by the way for years has been annoyed that I “look” at people passing through the parking lot as well as while shopping. Occasionally giving me the business over tossing “the Jack Nicholson” look at some.
-Goofy
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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08/29/20 12:04 PM
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I would also like to say that my wife is not some privileged person either. She grew up very poor with a single drug addicted "mother" and no hope for a better life. She overcame the situation she was born into, went to nursing school and made a better life for herself. She is the only person in her family to graduate anything. She is a wonderful woman who came from nothing and she is my hero. You don't need to explain this but good for her. I don't care if she is the Queen of England. Behavior like you described is unacceptable in any case.
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Savell]
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08/29/20 12:04 PM
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Yes sir
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I feel so bad for those who go through such trauma , that is what it truly is for them.
I have believed for decades, that all citizens should take self-defense class, even a little , to get into the mindset of planning ahead what they would do, being aware of their surroundings , having a plan. Instead of freezing in fright. So many grow up with no exposure to self-preservation , or what they would do if unfortunate circumstance presented itself. Especially women. At any age, is not too late to learn a few effective moves.
Being aware in parking lots is vital. Looking way ahead driving in . There are those areas of the country, where predators are known to troll for victims , being approached by natives in sets of two or more, in rez country, or others in cities , whatever is prevalent to the cultural population. Intimidating in groups for money.
Locking sight onto those who have targeted you at a distance, puts them off before they get to you, they look for those exhibiting timid body language , eyes down, or distracted. Some people have great success using their "big voice" warning them to back off before they get even 20 feet away.
Seeing what is happening around you at distance really helps to plan ahead, either to walk back from where you came, or change direction . When leaving the store, always scan underneath parked cars for feet on the other side, but not seen above the hoods.
The choice to stop, and go back from where you came is always an option, if proceeding ahead feels dangerous. Never second guess your instinct.
I like to park in places where I won't be blocked from a car parked in the opposite side. I can drive over the cement block, and into the green space between parking lanes if I need to. My truck is high enough, and 4x4, is no problem. Thinking outside the box in driving is key , when needed. I also like to back in , instead of pulling straight in .
In the case of being blocked from leaving, I would enter my truck, roll down the window, start up, pistol in hand, lowered . Glaring , locked onto them. Depending on what they would do, if they amped up confrontation , or got out to approach, two choices , for me, either roll into their car, and move it, or if they get to the window, take clear aim. Sitting there blocked in is not an option for me, waiting for bullies to tire of threats and name-calling , amping up to physical contact.
For people who have not mentally planned survival modes, those decisions would be difficult to execute, much less think of. That's why so many videos show drivers just sitting in the road while thugs break windows and pull them out of their rig. They are programmed to not hurt anyone, run them over, or take any action to defend themselves.
The grizzly mindset , the whirlwind of protecting her cubs, has been absent from modern humans for a long time.
I would rather explain the real scenarios that everyone sees in videos to a judge, than be yet another victim . Every time I see videos like that, it never ends well for the ones bullied. In your face screaming eventually leads to contact. Rarely does it limit to non touch screaming only. Even that is enough of a threat to make the choice in defense. I don't know of one veteran who would stand for a megaphone blaring inches from his ears , in BATTERY of noise torture, who wouldn't take that nonsense down in short order.
Train those in the family . Just being aware way ahead can help a lot.
Controlled anger motivates. Fear paralyzes.
It is all mindset.
.... I need to remember to never walk up and ask Sharon if she needs help loading her groceries lol yeah i agree!! The Mexicans would be yelling "Remember the Alamo " as they dove into the Rio Grande today making their charged instead of it being the theme of the Texans if she would have been at the Alamo.
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Yes sir]
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08/29/20 12:04 PM
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Sometimes it takes more faith to see the truth, as it can be scary. With that I said I'm not sure what the outcome will be but the direction we are headed is picking up speed and we are getting closer to the point of a run away Is a bomb dangerous when all it’s parts are not wired for the same goal?
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Finster]
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08/29/20 12:05 PM
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Ok, I don't think we have gotten the entire story here. Something is not adding up. So in a Walmart parking lot with hundreds of people and cars, the OP's wife was singled out? Why? Not that BLM needs a reason but it would seem that with all of those people, the chances of being singled out are pretty slim. Was she in a very black neighborhood? Was she dressed to the nines? Does she have a confederate flag bumper sticker or some other sign? I'm not trying to pass blame, that's for sure and I'm not calling anyone a liar. I would just like to understand the entire story because things are not adding up. I have posted close to a dozen videos of white people, mostly elderly, being attacked by blm members and supporters. The attackers are of multiple races. The white people did not deserve to be attacked. All the victims were attacked most likely because they appeared to be unlikely to fight back and because they were convienent. Many of the videos I posted are still up here if you want to search and view them. Warning, the videos are disturbing, but people need to know what's happening. There are many hundreds more videos of attacks on random white people on line, many with language that makes them inappropriate for Trapperman. A quick search will show you more than you could stand to watch. Keith
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Marty]
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08/29/20 12:07 PM
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If you want to underestimate what is happening have at it, I am not going down that path. Awareness is a wonderful thing. There have been way more powerful people in our history than what is on the stage currently and their impact was only so much.
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Re: Wife harassed at walmart
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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08/29/20 12:14 PM
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Marty
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Like I said, if you want to underestimate the potential consequences of the current situation have at it. But let me ask you this, when in our history was rioting allowed in a dozen states for months on end?
Just keep telling yourself it will all be OK and go to a blm riot with a maga hat and let me know how that turns out. Used to be I lived in an America where anyone could wear any hat they wanted too.....
Rise and Rise Again Until Lambs Become Lions
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