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Mandatory jaw samples #6975059
08/27/20 06:38 AM
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Can you tell me if your state requires mandatory tooth samples at fish and game for otter and cats?

Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6975087
08/27/20 07:31 AM
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Montana yes lower jaw intact.
And better be clean and dry.

Last edited by red mt; 08/27/20 07:32 AM.

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Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6975123
08/27/20 08:15 AM
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Nevada requires the lower jaw of bobcats. Not otters


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Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6975135
08/27/20 08:21 AM
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Skulls only for cats and otters in Michigan


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Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6975152
08/27/20 08:34 AM
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Whole skinned carcass for otter in Indiana. Bobcat still not legal even though they are thick in the many parts of the state.

Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6975182
08/27/20 09:06 AM
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Ohio wants the carcass of otters.

Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6975551
08/27/20 04:39 PM
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Optional for otters in Illinois to send lower jaw to SIU, not sure on the bobcats as I haven't drawn a tag. I did catch an otter and a few cats across the river in KY, and I believe it was optional as well. But I'm sure you'd know about that

Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6975703
08/27/20 07:56 PM
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What is the purpose of this?

Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: Tailhunter] #6975743
08/27/20 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tailhunter
What is the purpose of this?

Age information and other data

Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6976085
08/28/20 06:31 AM
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Very early in our cat seasons, around the mid eighties, they wanted the whole cat carcass. I’ve been catching them since 1984 here and there’s, I believe, more cats than fox. Most definitely gray fox. I’ve been on many small streams around the state in the last 30 years and there’s definitely more otter too. I suppose since they’re CITES species they really have to have data to make any changes.

Massac,
There’s discussion of making jaw submission mandatory.

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Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6976729
08/28/20 07:26 PM
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Canines for otters here in ks


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Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6978421
08/30/20 02:39 PM
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Lower canine for Fisher, Marten, and Otter. Lateral incisor for cats as well as a tissue sample here in Maine.

Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6983397
09/05/20 01:22 PM
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lower jaw mandatory on bobcats in Oregon, Idaho has started wanting them but not made it mandatory. Idaho will give you five dollars a jaw if you turn them in. Wyoming will also take them if you offer them but it isn't mandatory and they don't pay for them. Years ago Wyoming did have it mandatory, but changed it probably twenty years ago now, Oregon has been mandatory for as long as I remember and I've been to their main office and seen them dump buckets of them in the dumpster. So while they may do age tests etc. on some of them, they don't do so on all of them. But you absolutely aren't getting a cites tag without a lower jaw. Idaho also requires a tooth from wolves but nothing from otter, except you have to give drainage, unit and sex info when you get it tagged.

Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6988335
09/11/20 10:15 PM
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Neither is mandatory in TN

Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6988994
09/12/20 09:05 PM
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Mn has "rules".

Overpaid folks that get it "WRONG " a big majority of the time. smile

Bear teeth aging.


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Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6989038
09/12/20 09:59 PM
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Otter and bobcat skulls are valuable. When f&g takes a jaw, they've just taken some value of the animal you just worked for.

Re: Mandatory jaw samples [Re: kytrapper] #6989357
09/13/20 11:01 AM
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What Dean said. Once you lose that lower jaw a nice, complete skull becomes a craft grade skull and will only bring about 1/4 what it would have, sometimes less.

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