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Re: Honey [Re: Ranger109] #6996235 09/21/20 02:14 PM 09/21/20 02:14 PM
Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 715 Michigan B BigBlackBirds trapper
BigBlackBirds trapper B Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 715 Michigan	our year is basically over. only a touch of goldenrod left and the asters are open so 2020 is a wrap for all practical purposes. wasn't anything record setting but probably just above what our family has averaged in more modern times. they had some big years post WW2 up to the mid 70's but land use has changed and that has impacted things and in the last decade there are some huge number of colonies here so that alters things too

Re: Honey [Re: yukonjeff] #6996244 09/21/20 02:29 PM 09/21/20 02:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,662 Georgia warrior trapper
warrior trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,662 Georgia	Originally Posted by yukonjeff Big Brownie, That's an amazing harvest ! I wish we had warm and dry sunny summers but we don't . A hot day for us is 70 degrease an more days like 55 degrease is normal for us. Some parts of Alaska like Fairbanks do really good and get a huge harvest its warmer summers there. With all the daylight we have here the bees can work long into the night even. The one main ingredient to making honey is hot dry weather. I order honey online from all over the US and other countries just to try. I like Acacia honey from Hungry, and Blackberry from Washington is real good too. I have some goldenrod ordered from ebay waiting to try. But my own honey is the best I ever tasted and many who have sampled it have said the same. Its mainly fireweed with Cow parsnip and a few other wild flowers mixed in. It taste similar to orange blossom from Florida but also has a hint of butterscotch taste. I wish I could get a decent harvest someday, just snatched a few frames as a I could, These hives were just nucs this spring so fingers crossed for next year. Acacia from anywhere in Europe is our Black Locust aka Psuedoacacia robinia. It was imported over there as a source of firewood and has gone native in many areas. However, honey from the same species in differing soils/climates have slightly different flavor profiles. I've tasted the two side by side and while very similar and clearly identifiable as locust honey, what we call it, there were distinct differences. One reason why I say honeys are like fine wines.

Re: Honey [Re: Ranger109] #6996247 09/21/20 02:30 PM 09/21/20 02:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,662 Georgia warrior trapper
warrior trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,662 Georgia	Buttonbush blooms in June here well after the main flow and is a minor source at best.

Re: Honey [Re: warrior] #6996257 09/21/20 02:36 PM 09/21/20 02:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,154 Tug Hill, NY Redknot trapper
Redknot trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,154 Tug Hill, NY	Originally Posted by warrior Buttonbush blooms in June here well after the main flow and is a minor source at best. For you perhaps...I have a unique area with a substantial amount of buttonbush and it flowers much later in this part of NY... ~Illegitimi Non Carborundum~

Re: Honey [Re: Ranger109] #6996266 09/21/20 02:41 PM 09/21/20 02:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,662 Georgia warrior trapper
warrior trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,662 Georgia	As for unique honeys, the most unique I've ever tasted was kudzu honey. Its a hard one to come by as the bees don't readily work it. My understanding is you have to give them no other option by finding an area with absolutely nothing else, usually in the heart of our pine plantations that are miles and miles of nothing but pine and sweet gum, with a big patch of kudzu in the middle of. Ideally growing vertical up into the trees. It's light purple and tastes like bubble gum. Another unique one is bitterweed. Another the bees usually won't touch but I had a friend who had a hive put up a box of it. To look at it it is the perfect honey. A beautiful golden amber and clear as a bell, will not granulate (I still have a sample jar in my cabinet that is still perfectly liquid ten years later) but the taste is pure petroleum based solvent. Horrible stuff. Funny thing though is not everyone can taste the bad. Most who sampled it could but a few like my son in law couldn't describing it as sweet but otherwise unremarkable.

Re: Honey [Re: Redknot] #6996268 09/21/20 02:43 PM 09/21/20 02:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,662 Georgia warrior trapper
warrior trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,662 Georgia	Originally Posted by Redknot Originally Posted by warrior Buttonbush blooms in June here well after the main flow and is a minor source at best. For you perhaps...I have a unique area with a substantial amount of buttonbush and it flowers much later in this part of NY... That's why we say all beekeeping is local. Mine pick up a good bit of the early locust bloom but my neighbor half a mile away says she's never seen any locust in her boxes.

Re: Honey [Re: Ranger109] #6996269 09/21/20 02:44 PM 09/21/20 02:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 153 Metropolis Il. S story trapper
story trapper S Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 153 Metropolis Il.	Orange blossume and sourwood

Re: Honey [Re: story] #6996310 09/21/20 03:55 PM 09/21/20 03:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 401 walla walla ,washington B bob maier trapper
bob maier trapper B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 401 walla walla ,washington	Out here in Washington state the snake river breaks has rabbit brush right now in bloom. Honey smells like cat (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman),I kid you not.

Re: Honey [Re: Ranger109] #6996318 09/21/20 04:15 PM 09/21/20 04:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,662 Georgia warrior trapper
warrior trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 25,662 Georgia	The Georgia Beekeepers Association is holding a national black jar contest in conjunction with our Fall Conference next weekend. https://gba17.wildapricot.org/event-2710132 A good friend of mine is the Chief Honey Judge and Senior Welsh Honey Judge for the state. The judging has been done and he reports samples from all over the nation with flavors unknown here. He's had the pleasure of traveling and judging internationally as well. Black jar is judged by taste alone. We would be glad to have anyone attend as it's a virtual conference held online via Zoom. Registration is only $15 and you get all the keynote speakers Dr's Jamie Ellis and Delaplane plus two break out sessions each day. PLUS the talks, breakout and keynote will be available for a time following so you could actually see all off the breakouts as well.

Re: Honey [Re: Ranger109] #6996357 09/21/20 05:13 PM 09/21/20 05:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2020 Posts: 1,587 MT S Slick Pan trapper
Slick Pan trapper S Joined: Feb 2020 Posts: 1,587 MT	Knapweed honey is quite prolific here.

Re: Honey [Re: waggler] #6996839 09/22/20 12:11 AM 09/22/20 12:11 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,271 Oregon beaverpeeler trapper
beaverpeeler trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,271 Oregon	Originally Posted by waggler The best tasting honey I ever had was Mountain Huckleberry ( Vaccinium membranaceum) honey. Pretty rare and expensive. What other outstanding flavours are out there in different parts of the Country? I'm admittedly somewhat of a honey snob. Have you tried fireweed honey? Comes out of the same country the huckleberry does. My fear of moving stairs is escalating!

Re: Honey [Re: Ranger109] #6996855 09/22/20 01:35 AM 09/22/20 01:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,239 Alaska and Washington State W waggler trapper
waggler trapper W Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,239 Alaska and Washington State	^^^^^ One of my favorite bold flavoured honeys. Haven't had any in years. Do you know where I can find some? "My life is better than your vacation"

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