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As a side note, I think I will try Timber this year instead of Backbreaker.

Paul, you mention that your dad put a lot of emphasis on education and I'm sure he did.. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but who is getting educated by this thread. Petr obviously, by his comments will not change his mind, so in his head he is correct and does not need to be educated or is not willing to be. All of the members on here are of like mind in regards to trapping and disagree with Petr. So what is the take away? Again, not trying to make waves. I just don't see anyone getting educated by this.

No he doesn't.

Dang it pcr2. Why'd you have to go and leave? This social experiment isn't helping a thing.

Petr I'd still like to know what job you work for a living.?
And what's a livestock owner supposed to do about coyotes killing calves and sheep?

Being Petr is from Russia, makes you wonder if he is going to vote for Trump in November?

I've noticed we have Russian interference on this site now.

He's not answering this question cause he's in mom's basement and on the govt dole. He believes in greek mythology not Christianity. He's in imaginary lala land. No critical thinking allowed!

I teach my students one must know your opponent or enemy. I play the role in my class of any anti, trapper, hunter, fisher, farmer, dog owner etc. I read many writings and sites to be informed and educated to the best I can. I have and am learning from both sides here. My students encounter groups in our small rural WI area, at fairs where they show farm animals. We have have had animal liberation attacks in our area, wolf rights groups etc. One can learn if one is willing. I appreciate what Paul is attempting to do here. I have learned a great deal about members on here as well. Taking ones ball and running home to hide is not a solution. My first encounter with a PETA member I handled horribly in a public college setting. I learned and continue to learn. Thank you Paul.

It's hard to debate someone not knowing specifics such as age, career, etc. There is know true way to connect in a relationship that might truly change one's opinion.
P.S. Petr if you get the notion, pick up a Bible and read it. If you don't have one, I'll ship one to you if that is at all possible.

It just occurred to me! A bad thing happened to PCR2! We're doomed. He's going to pick each and everyone of us off one by one. Must.....stop.....trapping.....now!

Timber is a good choice. It's an excellent lure.

Let me take a shot at this I will live my life the way I choose because I live in a free country. You can live the way you want i could care less why do people think they need to change someone's mind. I am a taxidermist, trapper,hunter,Fishman and that's my life. Why do any of you trappers want to change his mind it's like someone who tries to talk someone into being saved. That is God's job your job you job is to share the gospel and your conversion. Trying to convince this person that trapping is right just adds fuel to his fight how about some starting a set picture thread and let this person fall to the wayside.

This about letting folks who have never encountered/conversed with an anti-trapping person see what we're up against. It's not about changing minds. This is what I meant about being educated. It's about exposing the mindset and rationale of such a person to those who have never seen/heard it. It's about education.

I understand that fully I guess what I was saying to everyone is instead of trying to change the person's mind just share with them why you trap. Don't retaliate to the your a murderer comments why does this person believe the way he does i don't know all I know is why I believe the way I do. That is because I grew up a saw the importance of management of wildlife. I grew up on a farm where we depended on the land and our hands to sustain us. Maybe this person never had this maybe they grew up in the city and out of a store. Or just maybe they did group on a fram and saw the butchering of animals and it upset them. To this person I would say if this is they way you feel or believe then that's fine for you a day you can live this way and the animals in your environment can live and you have done your part. I myself will live according to my beliefs and manage the wildlife in my environment and we can both hold our heads up. I to this person I don't want to change the way you think or even your views on wildlife management all i want you to see is the same applies from you to me.

Do you think you can educate James....so that he will vote for Trump Nov 3 ...?

Nope ain't gonna happen well there is hope.

I'm intresred to see the details of this experiment once they are revived. Having my views challenged and being able to articulately and rationally support and debate them makes me stronger.

I think I'm a real trapper maybe I'm delusional becuse I do only run a few dozen traps on a mixed line and only trap a few hundred acers mainly to reduce pest and teach my boys. O and I need a lot of work on my fur handling skills. Maybe I'm not a real trapper because I dont run a long wilderness line and live without electricity. I guess it depends on ones perspective.

I'm sad to see this turn of events. I'm guessing prc may be having some underlying personal issues that manifest and came out here instead of toward whatever else may have been bothering him.
It happens to me in September and October every year. I get down right salty over minor things when the real issue is subconsciously I'm thinking about my 16 month old son that was killed in an auto wreck October 7 2007. It takes a few weeks before I realize I'm loosing my composure once I recognize it I'm able to modify my reactions. It took several years to be able to recognize it thought. It may be something similar with him so if you look back on all he contributed over the years maybe you may find it in your heart to cut him some slack and reach out to him? I'm in no way telling you what to do just trying to provide some perspective from a newbie even though Its unsolicited and very well may not be wanted. I also probably don't have all the info and a limited perspective and try to keep that in mind.

I always try to see the positive after loosing a member but it's hard to see. Guess I won't untill the full details are revealed.
You can't build anything with ash but you sure can make soap with them( finding the positive?).

Respectfully Matthew

I hope this dosen't allow that ban hammer to find me.

Nessmuck
Boss dont let us cuss on here. Just say NO LOL

I was sitting here this morning and was thinking about this.
Well ok I had two brain cell hit together like a spark knock.

What if Paul was actually Petr and did this whole rigamarole to get us all thinking about anti’s.

Nawww, he wouldn’t do that.

Or would he?

Im like a lot of folks and had to get my backside off my shoulders and let my BP drop about 50 points, but I knew The Boss had a reason for doing this. Im glad now he did it. Rollaids had become my new best friend.
Hopefully everyones tempers will settle down and we wont have any one else jump overboard or let their mouth run before they engage their thinker.