This thread is like some disease that you just can't stop clicking on.

Petr: have you ever studied cycles especially using Phi numbers and rodents. Here in the U.S. during the dust bowl days rabbits would multiply so fast they would devour everything in their path. Surely you are aware of locust and grasshoppers and the havoc they cause when left unchecked.

So in believing of your Goddess is their any organized groups of people and a book or set of rules you go by, or are you just an individual that just kinda makes stuff up as you go along?

You need all the help you can get

I know its all you see when you get on here top of the page.

Your not plugging holes at that point your just patching them so more water builds and when it finally burst instead of a drip your going to have the bottom fall out. Just give up and admit you have no real desire or care to learn or truly debate. Again your working off of emotion and short term thinking at best.
Your cherry picking the easiest parts of all these arguments you can somewhat argue and not looking at any of the others. Honestly I could print out all the reverent responses and your questions and give them to actual open minded people and most of them who don't work purely off of emotion and are non biased will say what I just stated. [/quote]

So you are not biased, I suppose!!

If u don't like the way I debate, too bad. I don't like the way u go on and on about who's biases...when we all are!!!
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I never said I wasn't hence why I said if I showed this to people who are non biased. Sonrandom computer nerd or house wife who could give two cares either way as an example. And I never said I don't like anything I simply pointed out what's going on. And as usual your cherry picking and working off of emotion which isn't a debate. You ever seen an actually debate team or a scientific debate? Emotion is a mute point . And some of my pagan watch wishing friends I talked to about the manner said it seems your one of the practiconers who truly don't understand how the world and nature works.
We give you answer after answer reason after reason in this "Debate you wish for " many of us have tried to be more than curious and respectful but you simply keep regurgitating the same thing. You haven't been able to quote a scientific study, a well documented phenonomon, or anything like that in your favor. You just run through on emotion and speaking on your ideals and beliefs. Its basically like me going up to you and saying "gay people get aids because my Bible say their sinners and I don't think it's good" even though you have scientific evidence and more experience than I could ever to come to the conclusion I'm wrong.

Another point I wish to make,Wild Furbearer management(trapping) is not a sport.It is a profession and a way of life particularly for Canadians and other rural people.
It is a healthy lifestyle steeped in tradition and a noble tradition it is indeed.There are traplines in Canada that have been managed by generations of trappers from the same family and the same numbers of animals are harvested year after year from the same trapgrounds,records of beaver harvests that go back over 70 years indicate healthy sustainable harvests year in and year out because of proper conscientious management by the familys that take their role as stewards of the land seriously.One small Trapline in the North Bay area showed records of 50 beaver a year harvest for 60 years every year.And the landscape still supports beaver in the same harvestable numbers.
Trapping is a free enterprise self sustaining activity that provides income and bread and butter for families that depend on the animals for sustenance as well as income,whether that income is supplementary or seasonal it is important necessary income for rural people who wish to live on the land and with nature.In no way are these people going to harm their trapgrounds by either overharvesting or underharvesting natures bounty.Their life as they live it depends on the animals that they love dearly.

" "Happy People: A Year in the Taiga" is a 2010 documentary film directed by Werner Herzog and Dmitry Vasyukov and produced by Herzog.[2] The film depicts the life of the people in the village of Bakhta (62.464463°N 89.002168°E) at the confluence of the Yenisei and the Bakhta River, in the Siberian taiga. In particular, it focuses on the Russian trappers who hunt for fur animals, such as sable. "

I don't believe the person is Russian. Not for a minute.

Why are y’all letting this guy/gal get under your skin? He doesn’t agree so be it. A lot of things I don’t agree with, but life goes on.

Petr: I know you are getting more questions thrown at you than seems possible to respond to, but are you an active member in VITA?

I never said I was Russian. Im American, recently moved to Russia too be near my love, who I met in college. I have one more semester to go, but couldn't stand being apart from my love!!!

Lucky her DAD gave me a job, but it's a good job I don't have to do much. Supposed to be learning Russian but that's a hard language!!!

But what does that have to do with the issue? Trapping is cruel, you know it, so you chase me around.

Nobody has answered about those deer feeders. What are they for if not to increase the capacity of the land!!? If u can feed deer, why not other animals?

Deer feeders are illegal here. Concentrates them too close and transmits disease.

Be bad for the non-existent coon market if Russians were getting soft on fur. Just another American bunny hugger. No market here anyway.

But Petr If you are feeding them they are not wild animals anymore. That's why.

just

Figures.

Deer feeders are for luring deer into a certain area. They are not for feeding the deer. Like any animal, if they get dependant on the feed for their main source of food, they are basically getting domesticated. If you don't continue to feed them they will starve. So, to answer your question, deer feeders are used to bait deer into shooting range. Nothing more and nothing less.

I don,t believe even James could hold a candle to this nonsense.

This is ridiculous there are 19 pages! He only has 14 posts! Not even enough for a whole page! It’s like a Mary-go-round

Sorry yall I gotta give it up to boco.Eaven tho he's a dang Canadian. Suprised no one has said anything about how well worded his posts where and his description of a trapper and why some peopel trap.all of us trap for diferent reasons but if all of us would be honest with ourselves most of us would love to trap for reasons as boco has said. As for petr, you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink it

Okay, I'm going to end this. I just hope some of y'all who've never dealt with an anti-trapper was able to see what we're up against. That was the whole mission of letting Petr on.

Sorry Petr, but I think it's time for you to go. Thank you for your service to my goal.